As we know folks will try anything. Finman at Florida a few years ago. Someone using a shaved down pull bouy last year at Texas. How long until we see someone wearing a pair of the Roka Sim Shorts underneath a swimskins during a non-wetsuit swim?
That doesn’t look like much fun to bike in.
No need to. Tri shorts, Sim shorts, then swimskin.
Undoubtedly inevitable…if it hasn’t already happened.
Is there a reason why USAT / WTC doesn’t have a graduated table for what wetsuit is legal at what temps? Full wetsuit below 73*, sleeveless up to 76*, shorty 76* up…etc? Seems to me that would eliminate the overheating issue and still give some swimmers some added “comfort” in the water (yeah, yeah…“learn how to swim”. Got it. But we know that many tackle these events unprepared in the swim and somewhat dependent on wetsuits).
Undoubtedly inevitable…if it hasn’t already happened.
Is there a reason why USAT / WTC doesn’t have a graduated table for what wetsuit is legal at what temps? Full wetsuit below 73*, sleeveless up to 76*, shorty 76* up…etc? Seems to me that would eliminate the overheating issue and still give some swimmers some added “comfort” in the water (yeah, yeah…“learn how to swim”. Got it. But we know that many tackle these events unprepared in the swim and somewhat dependent on wetsuits).
Sounds like that idea would be a continuance of a trend of pricing people out of the sport - you’d have to have 3 different wetsuits if you wanted to be ready for all conditions. As it is now, I only have to have one wetsuit - if I deem it too hot for a full sleeve, then I guess my body can probably handle no wetsuit.
cheaters can always find a way.
this did not even occur to me
Undoubtedly inevitable…if it hasn’t already happened.
Is there a reason why USAT / WTC doesn’t have a graduated table for what wetsuit is legal at what temps? Full wetsuit below 73*, sleeveless up to 76*, shorty 76* up…etc? Seems to me that would eliminate the overheating issue and still give some swimmers some added “comfort” in the water (yeah, yeah…“learn how to swim”. Got it. But we know that many tackle these events unprepared in the swim and somewhat dependent on wetsuits).
Sounds like that idea would be a continuance of a trend of pricing people out of the sport - you’d have to have 3 different wetsuits if you wanted to be ready for all conditions. As it is now, I only have to have one wetsuit - if I deem it too hot for a full sleeve, then I guess my body can probably handle no wetsuit.
You wouldn’t have to have anything…that is up to the individual. Not really that much different than today, is it? You need a wetsuit and a swimskin (which is more expensive than a lot of sleeveless wetsuits).
But you can cover the “extremes” with a full wetsuit and a pair of Roka shorts ($100). In between, you have to go with the less substantial option.
cheaters can always find a way.
this did not even occur to me
The curse of being in compliance for my day job. I have to think like the cheaters sometimes.
DeSoto would be thrilled with a rule like this, with their mix-and-match variety of wetsuit tops and bottoms.
What about a wetsuit legal race? So, wear tri shorts, then the Roka Shorts, then a wetsuit. Why? Because some people swim faster with a “pull buoy” on than without and this is not a pull buoy, but it puts a lot of thickness in the area that a pull buoy would. . .so. . it might be faster than just a straight wetsuit. I guess overheating could be a concern in that area?
Thoughts?
Wearing the sim shorts and a wetsuit would violate the 5mm thickness rule
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Wearing the sim shorts and a wetsuit would violate the 5mm thickness rule
And wearing a sim short under a swimskin would violate the non wetsuit rule as well. Who is going to check if either senarion is being used?
Wearing the sim shorts and a wetsuit would violate the 5mm thickness rule
Why? Does it say total thickness or thickness of your wetsuit?
Wearing the sim shorts and a wetsuit would violate the 5mm thickness rule
Why? Does it say total thickness or thickness of your wetsuit?
Interesting. I went to the Ironman website and it states the wetsuit thickness can not exceed 5mm, but based on the verbiage (nevermind the spirit of rule), the rules don’t seem to prohibit “two” wetsuits from being worn concurrently.
Have not checked the USAT rules.
Sounds like we need a new WTC rule to keep folks from doing this.
Sigh…
Or follow the ITU 1 suit rule when its too warm for wetsuits.
“no really, i just have really really fat thighs”
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It would be a complete waste of $99.
Undoubtedly inevitable…if it hasn’t already happened.
Is there a reason why USAT / WTC doesn’t have a graduated table for what wetsuit is legal at what temps? Full wetsuit below 73*, sleeveless up to 76*, shorty 76* up…etc? Seems to me that would eliminate the overheating issue and still give some swimmers some added “comfort” in the water (yeah, yeah…“learn how to swim”. Got it. But we know that many tackle these events unprepared in the swim and somewhat dependent on wetsuits).
Sounds like that idea would be a continuance of a trend of pricing people out of the sport - you’d have to have 3 different wetsuits if you wanted to be ready for all conditions. As it is now, I only have to have one wetsuit - if I deem it too hot for a full sleeve, then I guess my body can probably handle no wetsuit.
You wouldn’t have to have anything…that is up to the individual. Not really that much different than today, is it? You need a wetsuit and a swimskin (which is more expensive than a lot of sleeveless wetsuits).
But you can cover the “extremes” with a full wetsuit and a pair of Roka shorts ($100). In between, you have to go with the less substantial option.
I think you can “cover the extremes” with just a sleeveless wetsuit and a Speedo, or at least that has always been my approach.
Or follow the ITU 1 suit rule when its too warm for wetsuits.
That’s just far too logical.
Why pay $100 for the Roka shorts? Just wear a tri jersey with pockets in back and stuff the air filled packing box sacks in the pockets. When they compress under wetsuit (PV=nRT) they produce a large lift. Gets around 1 wetsuit rule and you leave them on for bike and it is an aerodynamic improvement 
THINK ABOUT IT