I recently picked up a 2013 P2 (old frame style).
Does anyone here happen to have a cad file of the seatpost? I need the top of the post with the 2 mounting holes as well as the profile of the shape.
I have a couple of little projects I’d like to 3d print and this will save me some time.
Bump?
Back in the day, I bought a 2004? Cervelo P2K. I hated the colour so immediately re-painted it to suit my taste (it was an ali bike so no dramas repainting it an voiding warranties blah blah blah). Anyway, even with the every helpful Gerard working with me, just the job of getting genuine Cervelo decals, was a complete nightmare. I wanted to build a custom behind the seat bottle holder with a custom bracket off the seat post. I wanted the CAD drawings of the seat post so I could get the bracket to match properly. No luck.
Now, with Cervelo being a faceless entity (Damon’s gone too of course), I can’t imagine you’ll have any chance of getting any files from them. If you get a polite “No” you’ll be doing well.
I think your best chance is a digital micrometer, a steady hand and holes 1 size larger than you need, for some tolerance.
Just my 2 cents
I wanted the CAD drawings of the seat post so I could get the bracket to match properly. No luck.
Now, with Cervelo being a faceless entity (Damon’s gone too of course), I can’t imagine you’ll have any chance of getting any files from them. If you get a polite “No” you’ll be doing well.
does your company typically provide the source code and blue prints to anyone who calls up and asks for them?
In all seriousness, why would you expect a manufacturer to just give you a CAD file because you asked for it? For me to even give a CAD file to a supplier requires an NDA and of course we are only giving it to them because we are paying them to do something with it for us.
If some random person just called our company and asked for the CAD files, yes a polite no would be doing well, because you are making an absurd request.
Thanks for the input, man. I thought someone may have already modeled it for a homebrew project and I’d save some time.
But, I’ll draft it myself, not a big deal.
I wanted the CAD drawings of the seat post so I could get the bracket to match properly. No luck.
Now, with Cervelo being a faceless entity (Damon’s gone too of course), I can’t imagine you’ll have any chance of getting any files from them. If you get a polite “No” you’ll be doing well.
does your company typically provide the source code and blue prints to anyone who calls up and asks for them?
In all seriousness, why would you expect a manufacturer to just give you a CAD file because you asked for it? For me to even give a CAD file to a supplier requires an NDA and of course we are only giving it to them because we are paying them to do something with it for us.
If some random person just called our company and asked for the CAD files, yes a polite no would be doing well, because you are making an absurd request.
Well Yoda, actually we do!
I work for an architectural firm with consulting engineers also. We send out CAD/Revit files and/or hardcopies to anyone who asks. We understand several things in our industry.
Generally the situation will be that we are doing work for a new tenant in an existing building. We request drawings/files from our competitor that did the building or tenancy last, so we know what can stay and what has to be replaced. Equally, the situation works the other way round as well.
We also chase contractors for their As-Built drawings and “design build” contractors call us regularly too. While we have a published list of prices for things, I don’t recall actually ever charging anyone. The cost to bill someone is more than the thumb drive/CD/paper so it’s not worth the hassle. We just have an office junior find the files an send them off.
I appreciate that New Zealand is a little different than First World countries however. (and that’s a good thing) 
And of course, an NDA isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. If the information is any good, it will be stolen, tweaked ever so slightly and used as their info anyway. I mean, everything we do in life is based on what came before. Do you pay patent infringement money to the guy that invented the wheel every time tyou ride a bike? No, that’s public domain IP, and so is all the stuff you do. If it’s not specifically patented then it’s already in the public domain before some random actually calls for your files.
So just to clarify, the blueprints you prepare for clients are the property of your firm and not the client?
Likewise, if I call up and ask for the blueprints for the Slowman remodel, you will just send them right over and you don’t need to ask Slowman if it’s okay.
Yes, sounds like in the second or third world, you do things differently than in the First world.
So just to clarify, the blueprints you prepare for clients are the property of your firm and not the client?
Likewise, if I call up and ask for the blueprints for the Slowman remodel, you will just send them right over and you don’t need to ask Slowman if it’s okay.
Yes, sounds like in the second or third world, you do things differently than in the First world.
Yes, yes and yes. but with a qualification.
We do ask why they want them, and if they show where the client has their jewellery safe we might call the owner, but hardly anyone here is rich enough to own anything of value. IF it’s Slowman’s place, that’s a special case. He gets special treatment of course, but if it’s joe blogs, then the info will be in your hands before you finish your coffee. I’ve never been refused drawings from a competitor and never refused them either. I doubt I’d send bank fitout drawings but everytime I’ve sent those out, they’ve been at the Banks request so again, not really an issue. I do a lot of shopping malls, office buildings, schools, churches, government offices, prisons, banks etc. On any project that I could possibly be concerned about, it’s been the client that’s asked for us to send them to the new consultant. For totally minor jobs like shop fitouts or a new meeting room in an office building, I just call and the drawings show up. “Sweet as” as we say here in Godzone.
New Zealand is a very NON-litigious society, so lots of stuff happens here that doesn’t happen in the developed world. However, we also rank very high on the “happiness” rankings each year Life here is good, partially because we know about rule 1 and rule 2
p.s as you probably know, blueprints (blue pages with white lines) went out of date in about the 1960’s. They were replaced by white prints (white paper with blue lines). White prints went obsolete in the '90’s and blackline took over (white paper, black lines from a “plotter”. Now it’s just digital files that the person with access to the files prints off their own printer, whatever it might be. But I knew what you meant by blueprints and maaaaaan I don’t miss running sets of blueprints. The ammonia used to ‘set’ the blue colour was hell on you throat and eyes. And the blue colour faded fast in sunlight. Modern prints are far superior. but I digress…
does your company typically provide the source code and blue prints to anyone who calls up and asks for them?
In all seriousness, why would you expect a manufacturer to just give you a CAD file because you asked for it? For me to even give a CAD file to a supplier requires an NDA and of course we are only giving it to them because we are paying them to do something with it for us.
If some random person just called our company and asked for the CAD files, yes a polite no would be doing well, because you are making an absurd request.
My company provides 3d models to our customers upon request. We take steps to sanitize the models and assemblies to protect IP most of the time… but in the age of high resolution 3D scanners and cheap engineering labor it can be a bit futile.
If cervelo doesn’t want to give a 3D cad file, they could at lest provide the post profiles and relevant dimensions to help a customer.
If cervelo doesn’t want to give a 3D cad file, they could at lest provide the post profiles and relevant dimensions to help a customer.
Again, Cervelo incurs an expense - even if the expense is opportunity cost - to provide something with no associated profit. It’s a business, not a charity.
This is the same for photography. The photographer owns the rights and can use them as they see fit not the person in the photographs. Unless that’s agreed upon in a contract beforehand.