People v. McKay specifically cites to 12591 as proof that the legislature intended users of the roadway to carry ID. This is a bicycle case about a bicyclist who was arrested for a municipal bicycling infraction because he did not have satisfactory ID even though he gave his name and address, which were accurate.
This is one of these things where I don’t understand Americans. Why make it so complicated? It’s not that hard to carry your ID when riding a bike. Just do it instead of always whining about it. If you carry it, there’s no problem. If you don’t and end up in trouble you can scream how your rights are being violated but at the end of the day, whatever problem you get into, no matter whether it’s fair or not, is something that you can avoid by carrying your ID.
People v. McKay specifically cites to 12591 as proof that the legislature intended users of the roadway to carry ID. This is a bicycle case about a bicyclist who was arrested for a municipal bicycling infraction because he did not have satisfactory ID even though he gave his name and address, which were accurate.
most teens/kids would not have an id with their address on it, so…
are they not allowed to ride bikes on the road ?
Is that what I suggested or implied? I’m saying if you have an ID, you can make your life much easier by carrying it. If you don’t have one, well then you can’t carry it with you, right?
"CVC Sec. 40302.5 protects a minor from arrest for failure to produce a driver license in a case not involving a motor vehicle infraction.
I think in most cases the cop is not going to arrest the minor if he has no ID unless the kid is obstreperous. If you want to be absolutely safe, though, I’d recommend minors to ride with a CA ID card. It’s cheaper than a nice training tire."
This is one of these things where I don’t understand Americans. Why make it so complicated? It’s not that hard to carry your ID when riding a bike. Just do it instead of always whining about it. If you carry it, there’s no problem. If you don’t and end up in trouble you can scream how your rights are being violated but at the end of the day, whatever problem you get into, no matter whether it’s fair or not, is something that you can avoid by carrying your ID.
Because we have a Bill of Rights, can’t be searched without a legally justified reason (theoretically), and don’t have to produce papers to the police at their will.
This is one of these things where I don’t understand Americans. Why make it so complicated? It’s not that hard to carry your ID when riding a bike. Just do it instead of always whining about it. If you carry it, there’s no problem. If you don’t and end up in trouble you can scream how your rights are being violated but at the end of the day, whatever problem you get into, no matter whether it’s fair or not, is something that you can avoid by carrying your ID.
Because we have a Bill of Rights, can’t be searched without a legally justified reason (theoretically), and don’t have to produce papers to the police at their will.This is exactly what I meant.
Putting aside stupid issues that are apropos of nothing, riding your bike with a baggie of meth is far more important to why you will be arrested than not having proper ID.
I thought if the cops ask for your ID you have to show them regardless if their is cause or not. Not talking about searching you, but if you are walking down the street, and a cop asks for your ID, they have the legal right to do this, yes??
Obstreperous. I learned something. Thanks.Hello jeffp and All,
Seth comments:
"CVC Sec. 40302.5 protects a minor from arrest for failure to produce a driver license in a case not involving a motor vehicle infraction.
I think in most cases the cop is not going to arrest the minor if he has no ID unless the kid is obstreperous. If you want to be absolutely safe, though, I’d recommend minors to ride with a CA ID card. It’s cheaper than a nice training tire."
I thought if the cops ask for your ID you have to show them regardless if their is cause or not. Not talking about searching you, but if you are walking down the street, and a cop asks for your ID, they have the legal right to do this, yes??
In California, there is no law to allow this. A Terry stop requires a legal standard to be met to ask for ID.
This is one of these things where I don’t understand Americans. Why make it so complicated? It’s not that hard to carry your ID when riding a bike. Just do it instead of always whining about it. If you carry it, there’s no problem. If you don’t and end up in trouble you can scream how your rights are being violated but at the end of the day, whatever problem you get into, no matter whether it’s fair or not, is something that you can avoid by carrying your ID.
Because we have a Bill of Rights, can’t be searched without a legally justified reason (theoretically), and don’t have to produce papers to the police at their will.This is exactly what I meant.
By making a statement about supporting my rights you say I am making it complicated?
most teens/kids would not have an id with their address on it, so…
are they not allowed to ride bikes on the road ?
Is that what I suggested or implied? I’m saying if you have an ID, you can make your life much easier by carrying it. If you don’t have one, well then you can’t carry it with you, right?
So they can give me a ticket for not putting my foot down at a deserted intersection? Nah, credit card is all I carry, “sorry officer…Im from Canada and we don’t have the same rules…”
Because we have a Bill of Rights, can’t be searched without a legally justified reason (theoretically), and don’t have to produce papers to the police at their will.
I think the idea here is that after you’ve been stopped for probable cause (say you’re suspected of not putting your foot down at a stop sign), that things can go much more smoothly for you if you have an ID.
Not that cops are stopping cyclists for no discernible reason and doing a “Papers, please.”