Carbon wheels on 10 speed, will they fit on 11 speed

I’ve got 2 to 3 year old Easton carbon wheels on my orbea ordu with ultegra 10 speed. Will these wheels be compatible with dura ace or ultegra 11 speed on a new bike?

No. You need an 11-speed hub on the rear wheel, and a 2-3 year old wheelset is unlikely to have one.

Older wheelsets can work if you can find a campy freehub body for your wheelset. Then just run a campy 11 cassette.

Or, if you are lucky and own Mavic wheels, you are already 11-speed compatible. Even on an older wheelset.

thanks guys. very helpful.

so is this the future…11 speed?
is the industry/technology moving away from 10 speed? or just higher-end equipment?

I would imagine that Shimano wants people to buy the latest and greatest. A good way to do that would be to push 11 on newer bikes.

Although, I think the adoption to 11 speed will be slower than what we saw for 10. 10 speed was compatible with 8/9 speed freehub bodies and there are some parts (like cranks) that could be made for 9 speed, but also worked well with 10 speed. 11 speed does not seem to be as forgiving. For your wheels, at a minimum, you’ll need to get a new freehub body and then have your wheel re-dished to accommodate the different size of it.

The future is 135mm disc hub based wheelsets that use 11-speed groups.

Should i sell my 10 speed eastons and upgrade to 11 speed wheels…
Or…find a local bike shop that will adjust the hub and make the eastons “fit” ?

Thoughts?

Yes, actually they will work.

If you’re Ok with an 11-25 cassette, there is an easy (and cost-free) trick to make any 8/9/10 speed rear wheel compatible with an 11-speed drivetrain.

I am very interested in finding out more about this easy trick. I have a set of Zipps that I would like to be able to use with an 11 speed system.

Sure, take a look at this. Works great.

not of any direct help to the OP, but if you have a 10sp powertap, the 10sp freehub pulls straight off and can be replaced with an 11sp freehub with no redishing required :wink:
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Would this method not work for other cassettes such as an 11-28? How about just using standard 10 speed cassettes and just setting up the shifter for 10 clicks?

Would this method not work for other cassettes such as an 11-28?
Yes, but the gearing spread of the new cassette that you make would not be as progressive/linear as on an 11-25. Shimano’s riveted cog carriers would prevent you from taking out the most logical cog to remove in many of the other cassette sizes.

How about just using standard 10 speed cassettes and just setting up the shifter for 10 clicks?
Here the problem is that both the cog thickness and the cog to cog spacing for 10 speed and 11 speed is not the same. An 11-speed shimano shifter that goes to 10 clicks still shifts in the smaller ‘11-speed increments’ when shifting from cog to cog. So if you were to just use a standard 10 speed cassette on an otherwise 11-speed system, the shifting would not be precise.

Greg @ dsw

I am very interested in finding out more about this easy trick. I have a set of Zipps that I would like to be able to use with an 11 speed system.

Run a Campagnolo compatible freehub and a Campagnolo cassette. The Easton and Zipp wheels already have an 11 speed Campagnolo freehub option for their older 10 speed Shimano compatible wheels.

-SD

Do 11 speed Campy cassettes play nice with Shimano 11 speed chains?

Do 11 speed Campy cassettes play nice with Shimano 11 speed chains?

Yes they do actually. I’ve also recently discovered that the 12-29t will work with a Dura-Ace RD-9070 which would offer a slightly lower gear than the Shimano CS-9000’s 11-28t.

-SD

Wouldn’t the shifting be compromised by using an 11 speed Campy cassette with an all Shimano 11 speed setup? I wonder what the cost would be to switch out the 10 speed Shimano hub for a Campy hub on my Zipp rear wheel.

I expected that the shifting would not be as crisp, especially in the extremes (biggest cog, smallest cog) but thus far with attention paid to the limit screw adjustment the shifting has been perfect. Admittedly, I haven’t tried it with 11s mechanical yet.

-SD

Wouldn’t the shifting be compromised by using an 11 speed Campy cassette with an all Shimano 11 speed setup? I wonder what the cost would be to switch out the 10 speed Shimano hub for a Campy hub on my Zipp rear wheel.

I think you’re talking about degrees. Campy’s 11-speed cog spacing is very slightly different from Shimano’s 11. Is it enough that you would detect a difference? Don’t know, likely not much, but you’ll have to try it with your set up to know for sure. But if you take a Shimano 11-speed cassette and drop out a cog as described above, then you get cog spacing that is exactly correct.

I was wondering if another option would work. Could you set the shifter to friction shift, use a 10 speed chain, and reset the limit screws of the rear derailleur and still use the 10 speed wheels?