Carbon seconds?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7150249258&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7150249180&rd=1

Anybody know more about these carbon frames?

They kind of look like factory-seconds or even -thirds.

Kind of funky, though.

definetly funky looking, I have no clue as to anything else
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look at lot like an older model of fondriest - they had some weird tube shapes

http://www.fondriest-usa.com/frameset.php?frame=domlex

none match the 2004/05 models the one with the weird top tube looks very much like an older model they had - like an '02-'03
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I’ve seen this company at work before. If Sycip is using it, it must be top notch. Nothing wrong with dedacciai either.

http://www.sycip.com/bikes_supercarb.html

looks like a Trigon frame, seen them under a bunch of different brand names. I think they had those bikes up on the site before but don’t see the $800 model right now.

http://www.greatgocycles.com.tw/cgi-bin/productfn/pdt_product_lst.pl?CatID=1&PagePtr=2

question is, what is the geometry on those two frames?

Syclip, Gios, Fondriest…hmmm made in?

It is a generic taiwanese carbon frame.Not trigon though. The quality of these frames are pretty good. However, they come only with a gel coat and no clear PU coat over so when it rains, the bike soaks up a bit of water and has murky white patches.

Other than that, they are pretty well made, wouldn’t pay the asking price though.