Carbon frame damage on seat stay

Just last week I bought a barely used Boardman road bike. I had it put together one whole day before I damaged the seat stay when it slipped out of the trainer. Being that I’m the second owner I doubt Boardman will do much but I’m going to ask them their opinion anyway and also contact Calfee. I put tension on it and can’t feel or hear any movement. The damaged area isn’t soft and it seems to pass the coin sound test. I did ride it yesterday for 50 miles over half of which was choppy pavement. It doesn’t seem worse for the wear but I need to have it checked anyway.

Any other recommendations for repair besides Calfee?

Any other opinions?

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You could repair it yourself. This is by far the most risky option and may lead to the least favorable cosmetic outcomes, but it is by far the cheapest. I can give you some more info on this if you’d like. If you have the money to spend (likely $300-600) then Calfee or Kane (http://kanebikes.com/carbonrepair/ ) could do do the work for you.

I would love to get that info. I’m not against doing that for sure. Thanks for the note on Kane. I emailed Calfee and their mailbox is full.

I added a full bike pic to give the damaged are a little better scale. The pics make the gouge look deeper than it is.

Looks like a paint chip to me, for what it’s worth.

You might be in luck if its just paint, its a good idea to have a second eye/hand look at it.

For repairs, check out frame doctor (theframedoctor.com) and cyclocarbon.com

GL

Hard to tell from internet photos, but it looks like you simply scraped off the paint and the first layer of carbon is scratched. Which is not really a big deal. If you want to go through the hassle, you could take it apart and ship it to a carbon repair place like Calfee so they could take a look.

Thanks for all the responses and the other recommendations.

I hadn’t noticed the marks on the chainstay, but I wouldn’t be terribly concerned about those–they look pretty much superficial. Do they pass the coin test or are there any indications that they are anything more serious than just paint chips?

As for repairing the seatstay, here’s what I’d say: with consideration given to your resources and ability level for doing paint/cosmetic work you need to decide what you’ll be happy with as a cosmetic outcome. Would you be satisfied with having a section with visible carbon fiber? Would you be happy with potentially non-matching white paint? This is what separates Calfee and Kane–you’ll end up getting your bike back in a condition that “resembles” new. Some come back looking perfect, some come back different than new but still cosmetically good (i.e paint may be different color, may be missing logos/stickers/emblems, it all depends on the location/extent of the repair, the complexity of the designs on your bike, etc.

The number one thing to consider is that while this is not a particularly technically challenging process, it will require a lot of time and attention to detail. If your time is really valuable or you have better things to do then you should just bite the bullet and send your bike to Kane or Calfee.

Once you’ve decided to do it yourself, you’ll need to buy materials. Depending on the quantities that you buy you’ll either end up with more than what you need of everything or a lot more than what you need of everything. You’ll just have materials left over for future projects…hopefully fun stuff and not frame repairs. You’ll come out ahead on cost even buying 10 times what you need for this project.

I’d recommend US composites and Fibreglast. There’s some stuff that you will need that you can really only find or buy economically from one or the other. You’ll need carbon fabric (plain weave, 5.7 oz/sq yd is what I’d recommend–twill weave will be harder to wrap/drape–US composites clearance materials will be cheapest, unless you buy sample-size swatches from Fibreglast). You’ll also need peel-ply, and bleeder sheet. Both can be bought from US Composites vacuum bagging materials section. You’ll need epoxy (I’d recommend the US Composites 635 epoxy system with Medium hardener). You’ll need cutting tools (a sharp razor blade will work if you have some kind of anti-fray product such as edge tape or an anti-fray drip, otherwise you’re best using an Olfa craft-type cutting mat and roller type cutting blade). For compression you’ll need either 20% shrink tape or just good old fashioned electrical tape wrapped tightly. You’ll need high-temp tape to secure the shrink tape, since the shrink tape is activated with heat. Vacuum bagging is always an option as well, though it is much more challenging to seal a tube that small compared with using a wrapping method for compression. Vacuum pumps are expensive, and the only way to do it any cheaper would be to use a venturi (which still requires that you own an air compressor with a suitable flow rate).

You’ll need mixing cups, stirrers, brushes, squeegees, painter’s tape, lots of plastic drop cloth to cover up your work area, other parts of the frame, etc. You’ll also need a range of sandpaper: 120, 320, 600, 1000, 1500.

I think I spent $180-$200 on materials buying the smallest or second smallest quantity of everything, but I have enough of every consumable good to do probably 10 more projects of the same size.

If this still sounds like something you’re up for, start buying and start researching vacuum bagging composites–95% of the underlying principles will apply, you’ll just likely be using a simpler method to apply compression. I bought a whole roll of shrink tape and probably ended up using 5m of it when I repaired my top tube. I’d be happy to send some your way so that you can save on costs.

Excellent info! Thanks for taking the time to write all that. It all passes the coin test. I hear no dead sounds at all. It’s almost all just paint chip except for one gouge or scrape that’s about the depth of 1-2mm.

That DIY may be too much for me. I get pretty impatient with detailed work like that. I’m contacting the recommendations above to see what the repair would cost. Probably best to do that in the end. Stupid, costly mistake.

This may sound a bit simple but may help. Find nail polish that matches most closely, and lightly sand area with very fine sand paper, paint then ride for a few short distances and inspect after each ride for any stress cracks in the paint. If it’s anything more than superficial it will show through stress cracks appearing. If no cracks, keep riding. From the pics, it looks to be only surface damage. I just recently finished a seat stay repair on my bike that was located mid way down the tube. It was a reasonable amount of work as the outer side of the tube had a definite 1" crack but the repair and refinish turned out good. Illstreet Composites were very helpful with supplies and guidance. Hope this may help.

i’d be inclined to just use the thing and keep an eye on that area, I doubt it will get any bigger. I cracked my mountain bike tube all the way through and had it fixed by carbonframerepair.com, they just repaired it w/o paint for 300, but it was far worse than yours

http://www.carbonframerepair.com/index.php/pricing/

Thanks for that tip. Seems like a cheap, simple way to check. Surely I can find a color close enough. Maybe even automotive touch-up paint will work.

Thanks for that info and link. Their pricing looks pretty decent.

Another option is Hans Schneider in Huntsville, Texas. He fixed a similar, though much more involved issue for me recently. Highly recommended, you can’t tell there was ever a problem.