Cadex employee at Sub7/Sub8 confirms:
Pre-orders start June
Deliveries starting September
~7000€ frame-only
No complete builds
Only through special tri dealers
7000€ is crazy. Was really hoping for Trinity-level value 
seems reasonable to me…
the real question is when will there be a new trinity
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
As they didn’t get the fastest split due to equipment choices with this frameset being one of them along with helmet and tyre choices it’s not surprising.
seems reasonable to me…
the real question is when will there be a new trinity
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
Tour de France probably. New Propel aero road bike as well.
~7000€ frame-only
Quite the price (~$7350 USD). Looking at some other top end tri/tt framesets (in USD):
Pinarello Bolide TR+: $10,000
Dimond Mogul: $10,000
Scott Plasma Ultimate HMX Frameset: $7700
Dimond Marquise: $7500
Specialized Sworks Shiv Tri: $6500
Cervelo P5 or PX: $5500
Argon 18 E-119 TRI+: $5500
Timemachine 01 DISC FRS P2P: $5500
Quintana Roo V-PR: $5340
Speed Concept SLR Framset: $5000 (but looks like it doesn’t come with a cockpit?..so add another $1000-ish)
Ventum One: $5000
Orbea Ordu OMX: $4200
Kinda crazy that Cervelo’s two offerings are middle of the pack price wise
seems reasonable to me…
the real question is when will there be a new trinity
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
The fastest bike split might not have won the race, which was the point right?. The point of the marketing is to show you can ride really fast on this bike, that it has excellent nutritional storage (and a hidden tool kit) and then you can get off it and run really fast too. If we did the fastest bike split and lost the race would that have been good marketing?
Usually fine tuning positions takes a while
How long before the event were you introduced to the bike?
Impressive to ride that fast on a borrowed bike
Usually fine tuning positions takes a while
How long before the event were you introduced to the bike?
Impressive to ride that fast on a borrowed bike
Not long enough. But you have to operate in the constraints you have.
The riders got to keep the bikes - even that slacker Kristian who didn’t come through and do any of the work. 
The riders got to keep the bikes
Well shoot, had I known that I would have offered up my services as a pacer for the event!
That’s pretty sweet race swag
Last time I got a tech t-shirt
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it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
As they didn’t get the fastest split due to equipment choices with this frameset being one of them along with helmet and tyre choices it’s not surprising.
Have you seen the four spoke Cadex wheel? No science gone into that it has been an open mould available out a factory in Taiwan for over 10 years. The trailing edge on the spokes are square…
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
As they didn’t get the fastest split due to equipment choices with this frameset being one of them along with helmet and tyre choices it’s not surprising.
Have you seen the four spoke Cadex wheel? No science gone into that it has been an open mould available out a factory in Taiwan for over 10 years. The trailing edge on the spokes are square…
Source? Not saying I don’t believe you but my understanding….not sure if true…is that giant after Boeing and Airbus is the third largest consumer of Carbon Fiber on the planet.
My understanding is that they actually build bikes and components for other companies.
Maurice
Have you seen the four spoke Cadex wheel? No science gone into that it has been an open mould available out a factory in Taiwan for over 10 years. The trailing edge on the spokes are square…
BS
- no science: Giant worked with ACE on wheel development.
- open mold: they have their own factories
- square trailing edge: truncated airfoils don’t mean the wheel is any less aero.
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
As they didn’t get the fastest split due to equipment choices with this frameset being one of them along with helmet and tyre choices it’s not surprising.
Have you seen the four spoke Cadex wheel? No science gone into that it has been an open mould available out a factory in Taiwan for over 10 years. The trailing edge on the spokes are square…
Source? Not saying I don’t believe you but my understanding….not sure if true…is that giant after Boeing and Airbus is the third largest consumer of Carbon Fiber on the planet.
My understanding is that they actually build bikes and components for other companies.
Maurice
I talked to someone who deals a in wheels, has been to the factory and said anyone can have the same wheel built with their brand on it as Cadex don’t own it. I had been talking about buying one and he pointed out to me the facts and highlighted the square edge. Have a look at some online pics and you’ll see for yourself…
https://www.cadex-cycling.com/au/cadex-4-spoke-aero-tubeless
Have you seen the four spoke Cadex wheel? No science gone into that it has been an open mould available out a factory in Taiwan for over 10 years. The trailing edge on the spokes are square…
BS
- no science: Giant worked with ACE on wheel development.
- open mold: they have their own factories
- square trailing edge: truncated airfoils don’t mean the wheel is any less aero.
Not on this wheel I’m afraid. Ever seen any aero data on it???
it’s a pity for giant that they did not get the fastest bike split. they lost a lot of marketing potential
As they didn’t get the fastest split due to equipment choices with this frameset being one of them along with helmet and tyre choices it’s not surprising.
Have you seen the four spoke Cadex wheel? No science gone into that it has been an open mould available out a factory in Taiwan for over 10 years. The trailing edge on the spokes are square…
Source? Not saying I don’t believe you but my understanding….not sure if true…is that giant after Boeing and Airbus is the third largest consumer of Carbon Fiber on the planet.
My understanding is that they actually build bikes and components for other companies.
Maurice
I talked to someone who deals a in wheels, has been to the factory and said anyone can have the same wheel built with their brand on it as Cadex don’t own it. I had been talking about buying one and he pointed out to me the facts and highlighted the square edge. Have a look at some online pics and you’ll see for yourself…
https://www.cadex-cycling.com/au/cadex-4-spoke-aero-tubeless
Yeah, I’m going with unlikely to no on that one. For starters it isn’t or never was available in hooked or clincher, second 21 internal and 27.6 external? That wasn’t really a trend 10 years ago.
If it’s available as a close replica etc likely that someone copied giants design, as they have done with zipp enve head etc.
Leaning to no, but not the first time I’ve been wrong on here.
Maurice
I chatted to the guy three weeks ago and saw one from the factory unbranded used for aero testing. That’s what he told me so believe it or not is up to you I have no reason to say otherwise…
- open mold: they have their own factories
They tried to buy the factory that makes their rims but it didn’t go through.
The bonus with the Cadex is that, as well as being more expensive than a P5, it fits lower/longer too. Which is good for a limited subset of the market (no really big size in case you’re wondering) but not great for the majority
- open mold: they have their own factories
They tried to buy the factory that makes their rims but it didn’t go through.
The bonus with the Cadex is that, as well as being more expensive than a P5, it fits lower/longer too. Which is good for a limited subset of the market (no really big size in case you’re wondering) but not great for the majority
You just know, or do you have the geometry chart?
I was actually wondering what exact geo it would have and pad stack and reach ranges.
Jeroen
Do any of you all think that if a company made an aero “wide” fork that fits your TT/tri bike that people would buy it? If it cost let’s say $2k?
I think they would.