What is the best cable actuated disc brake for TT?
I now have a TRP Spyre brake but that does not feels greet. Missing some brake power.
Are there good brakes for TT or do i need to upgrade to hydraulic? (Expensive because di2)
When doing most time trials, you don’t really need good brakes.
After two crashes with idots during training. A good brake is a good thing
I would switch to compressionless housing before ditching the Spyres, then if that doesn’t give you the feel you are looking for, get Yokozunas (cable actuated hydraulic system)
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Check out the hybrid options by TRP and Yokozuna. The later looks particularly neat
Training isn’t a time trial.
After two crashes with idots during training. A good brake is a good thing
Not training with ‘idots’ is a better thing.
It is idd better. But they where not training buddies.
I’ll echo this advice. Compressionless housing makes a huge difference for the cable-actuated brakes, either the direct pull like the Spyres or the hybrid brakes like the Yokozuna. You may want to also try changing brake pads. If you’re using the TRP pads that came with (resin compound, if I remember correctly), you may find more byte with a metallic or semi-metallic pad.
If you still end up looking for new brakes, the Yokozuna brakes are identical to the JuinTech brakes. I believe JuinTech is actually the contract manufacturer for Yokozuna. The Yokozuna price is generally higher, but includes cables and compressionless housing. If nothing else, it might help in finding someplace where brakes are in stock!
I currently have Spyres and the JuinTech R1 on different bikes, and the JuinTech is a small but noticeable step up on the modulation and lever feel. I’ve heard the 4-piston model, the GT series, is even better, but they’re starting to approach the cost of a hydraulic upgrade.
What is the best cable actuated disc brake for TT?
I now have a TRP Spyre brake but that does not feels greet. Missing some brake power.
Are there good brakes for TT or do i need to upgrade to hydraulic? (Expensive because di2)
I run Spyre’s on my road and TT bike and they have more than enough power for road braking. The key to mechanical disc for me is housing set up, I leave the lever bodies with Jagwire EZ bend (https://jagwire.com/...bend-housing-segment). I only use Jagwire Pro Slick Polished cables (https://jagwire.com/...hed-brake-inner-wire). I personally haven’t noticed much of a difference in housing as long as you run a quality housing, Compressionless is good but I personally feel it’s benefits are noticed more on rim brakes than mechanical disc.
Now the main factor in braking performance of disc brakes is universal across all brands and systems (mech or hydro) and that is proper set up of the pads and proper bed in of the rotors. This is very critical for getting the powerful and crisp grab that everyone wants but few have. There are a few techniques that you can use for this and if you’re curious in my setup preference feel free to message me and I can give you a quick summary or how to.
Also I personally recommend cable actuated disc brakes to all my clients who often travel with their bikes and have to break them down for packing. You can always find cables and housing if something happens while traveling and it also prevents hydraulic fluid from getting all over everything if a problem does occur which will end up costing A LOT more than cables and housing if your pads and rotor(s) become contaminated past the point of saving, it could also require new bar tape if the fluid gets onto your current tape. If it’s a line that breaks then you’re looking for a shop with the right hydraulic line and fluid for your system on hand (which is pretty uncommon currently) and the time to do it.
What rotor size are you on? If 140 then try a 160, at least on the front, and definately compressionless housing. Juin tech are the same as yokozuna, and might be cheaper depending on where you live.
Check out the hybrid options by TRP and Yokozuna. The later looks particularly neat
I can attest the Yokozuna “hybrid†disc brakes are great…they are not cheap, but I have been impressed with their performance. They didn’t have any black ones when I ordered, so I got stainless…and really like the way they look.
This is important, what brake levers are you using with your spyres?
I have the St r8060 di2 levers
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Interesting, shimano levers are usually the best in terms of how much cable they pull. I would definitely examine your cable compression, and/or your cable routing, and/or your caliper adjustment, and/or the condition of your pads and rotors before you scrap the spyres.
I had mushy spyres too when I got my new bike. I fixed this by adjusting the pads so they were centered and hit the rotor at the same time when i pulled the lever. Made a huge difference. I’ll also exho what others here have said. Compressionless housing helps too. I got some from jagwire on amazon. I actually asked trp what they recommended for housing and the recommended the jagwire compressionless.
There is a big difference with the TRP’S. the models that comes default on the Cervelo P-serie 105 is not as strong as for example the TRP Spyre SLC, that is so much more powerfull.
Jeroen