BTS solutions for Cobb Fifty Five JOF

I’ve tried lots of different saddles over the past few years and really liking the Cobb 55 so far

I run a Speedfil A2 up front with infinit. Downtube/seat tubes are taken up by a modified Torhans VR bottle with the flat kit Rear bottle is for water picked up at aid stations

I would normally just zip tie a gorilla cage back there as I’ve done in the past, and which works great for real bike bottles. But every 70.3 I’ve done lately now hands out smaller plastic bottles with squeeze tops, and they will not stay in the gorilla cage. I think it’s because the angle of the cage is too horizontal but I cannot get it more upright in the space available between the seatpost and the rails of the saddle. So I need something that’s not going to launch the crappy little bottles

Also considering a late season IM so for training I’ll likely need two back there

What are you using? I know Cobb makes a BTS setup but it doesn’t look all that aero (maybe none are) and I don’t need the bag contraption

I had no problem zip tyeing a gorilla cage on my JOF55 and holding water bottles they gave out on course at Kona 2014. I don’t have that bike anymore and don’t think I have any pics of the setup. Just letting you know it can be done.

I had no problem zip tyeing a gorilla cage on my JOF55 and holding water bottles they gave out on course at Kona 2014. I don’t have that bike anymore and don’t think I have any pics of the setup. Just letting you know it can be done.

9 on the back door brag. For a perfect 10 you needed to add your time and placing.

Adding that would certain bump it back to a 6 or so. Humbling day.

I had no problem zip tyeing a gorilla cage on my JOF55 and holding water bottles they gave out on course at Kona 2014. I don’t have that bike anymore and don’t think I have any pics of the setup. Just letting you know it can be done.

I am sure it can be done, but the last three 70.3s I’ve done with a zip tie/gorilla cage setup i’ve lost the rear bottle.

Maybe they give out nicer “championship” bottles at Kona than NOLA :wink:

Maybe they give out nicer “championship” bottles at Kona than NOLA :wink:

Nah, same crappy skinny plastic bottles I’ve gotten at other races.

Adding that would certain bump it back to a 6 or so. Humbling day.
Ok 9 it is then. Still very well executed !

“I run a Speedfil A2 up front with infinit. Downtube/seat tubes are taken up by a modified Torhans VR bottle with the flat kit Rear bottle is for water picked up at aid stations”

I use a similar set up but the flat kit is in the zip tied cage on the same saddle. . If you can make the switch what about a reg cage on the downtube instead of the Torhans. Then you can add a rubber band to the cage on the down tube to loop around the bottle from the aid station.

The hand up bottles don’t bounce of set tube/downtube cages, so I wouldn’t need a rubber band. It’s just not all that aero. Although it would solve the launching problem.

It was a bigger problem at NOLA (at least the year i did it) where the bike aid stations were at mile 12 ish and mile 40 ish. Long time to go with no water if the bottle won’t stay put.

Ever consider switching where you put infinit and water? Infinit in rear bottle holder and water up front where it is less likely to launch or just squeeze into your A2 at each station

I had no problem zip tyeing a gorilla cage on my JOF55 and holding water bottles they gave out on course at Kona 2014. I don’t have that bike anymore and don’t think I have any pics of the setup. Just letting you know it can be done.

9 on the back door brag. For a perfect 10 you needed to add your time and placing.
http://s24.postimg.org/6puglnmit/image.jpg

This is the BTS setup that Cobb sells that I had on my JOF55 that I raced in Kona this past October. (?8/10)

Bottle sits pretty vertical. You can mount 2 bottle holders on there if you want to. It comes with a bag that I fit all my flat kit stuff in (with the tube velcro strapped underneath the saddle).

Ever consider switching where you put infinit and water? Infinit in rear bottle holder and water up front where it is less likely to launch or just squeeze into your A2 at each station

I think I’ve tried all sorts of combinations but settled on if I was going to lose something off the back (even if a bike bottle, maybe over a train track etc) i’d rather it be water I can replace, and not the infinit.

Not sure what bike you have but why not an aero bottle on down tube with your infinit then just use front bottle for water? Then rear cage with flat kit. Still have your front open but also don’t have to worry about launching a bottle or reaching behind to get it.

Assuming you have enough room with saddle position relative to seatpost (fore-aft wise) you’ll get exceptionally good airflow, aero benefit from a set up like Matt Hanson’s (see slowtwitch article on his PR6 or his social media) or Jocelyn McCauley’s (see her social media or pictures from Dubai 70.3)… by using a specialized reserve rack but mounted upside down. The resulting single bottle sits low and tucked in, just poking it’s nose above the saddle, which given most people sit very far forward on JOF55 is certainly wiser.

That said I don’t think you’ll find any solution using a standard water bottle cage BTS that is going to hold one of those squeezy clear plastic bottles that get handed up, perhaps better to just dump it’s contents into your speedfil so flip flop kcal / water setup?

This view is based on velodrome testing not just “how it looks”.

Best,

David

XLAB Delta 200 + X-Strike was a tight fit in my case, but doable. Sits quite low.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=5238509#5238509

I had no problem zip tyeing a gorilla cage on my JOF55 and holding water bottles they gave out on course at Kona 2014. I don’t have that bike anymore and don’t think I have any pics of the setup. Just letting you know it can be done.

9 on the back door brag. For a perfect 10 you needed to add your time and placing.
http://s24.postimg.org/6puglnmit/image.jpg

This is the BTS setup that Cobb sells that I had on my JOF55 that I raced in Kona this past October. (?8/10)

Bottle sits pretty vertical. You can mount 2 bottle holders on there if you want to. It comes with a bag that I fit all my flat kit stuff in (with the tube velcro strapped underneath the saddle).

I’m going with 7/10. You clearly read above what you needed to add to get a 10 but chose not to include. That type of effort didn’t get you to Kona in the first place. C’mon.
ETA - Wait, I couldn’t see pic on work computer. Is that pic from Kona? If so I’ll bump you up to 8.5, well played.

I use a Cobb Randee with the mount on the back of the seat. I like the water bottle part, but I’ve had that kit bag come off twice on rougher sections of road, most recently on Sunday group ride Both times a buddy grabbed it for me, and fortunately it didn’t come off in a pace line. I’m not so confident in it anymore.

I use the Cobb rear bottle mount for longer rider in training, but It’s a PITA for me to reach the bottles as far forward as I ride. I had to be sitting up to change bottles. I just used a BTA bottle and swapped it a lot more.

OTOH, I love my JOF55. Mine is about worn out after 20k miles or so. I think I can eventually exchange it.

Sometimes best to KISS. No worrying about launching bottles. Nice cool fresh bottle every 20 minutes or so at Kona was nice. Reserve was needed handy the last 20 miles.

Since we’re posting photos… (simple set-up)

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