On the most recent episode of Pro Tri News podcast, Mark interviews Jacob Tipper, aero and performance cycling coach. During the show Mark mentions he believes USAT is planning on banning bottles or camelbacks down the kit for 2024. Has anyone else heard this?
Lead official for USAT told us @ USAT National champs they will be banned in 2024. - kyle
Lead official for USAT told us @ USAT National champs they will be banned in 2024. - kyle
So I heard some of the women in pro cycling may be using padded bras.
What a political shit show it will (particularly in the US) if
a) men start wearing padded bras
b) USAT tries to prevent either men or women from wearing padded bras
Sounds like an episode for Ero facts or fiction
Lead official for USAT told us @ USAT National champs they will be banned in 2024. - kyle
Thanks Kyle! Keep up the great work, show is terrific.
I wonder what the logic would be. Maybe they consider it a fairing?
I wonder what the logic would be. Maybe they consider it a fairing?
As discussed on the pod it would be way smarter to say anything on your chest needs to be providing fuel/water otherwise it is just a fairing.
the ideal way to write this rule is all athletes must run in whatever gear they use on the bike except helmet/shoes. That would naturally discourage them from from stuffing as they will have to run with the water bottle/camel back
That’s some good outside the box thinking.
the ideal way to write this rule is all athletes must run in whatever gear they use on the bike except helmet/shoes. That would naturally discourage them from from stuffing as they will have to run with the water bottle/camel back
So the rule would also say you also can’t throw things away at aid stations?
To the grumpy old men complaining about kids these days and their chest fairings, I actually think the hydration bladder down the front is a great solution.
Keeps body cool if I start it frozen in a hot day. Gives me the ability to provide my own nutrition in the entire course without slowing down others at aid stations or using resources/trash.
Can safely and frequently drink without removing hands from bars.
Remind me again why the fuddy daddies think it needs to be banned?
I don’t really care if it makes me faster even, it’s VERY convenient to use.
It’s also crazy to tell me that bento box that just fell off my bike (has happened) can’t be stuffed down my shirt and instead I have to try to one hand hold and bike with it instead.
How does someone refill the bladders on the bike? Are you suggesting someone can do a LC event on 1 “hydration bladder” down your shirt and that safely suffice from a hydration/nutrition standpoint?
I wouldn’t think you could safely ride with a bladder system stuffed down your kit to suffice for most people’s hydration needs for an LC event.
the ideal way to write this rule is all athletes must run in whatever gear they use on the bike except helmet/shoes. That would naturally discourage them from from stuffing as they will have to run with the water bottle/camel back
What about people who change their entire kit in T2 from cycling to running?
How does someone refill the bladders on the bike? Are you suggesting someone can do a LC event on 1 “hydration bladder” down your shirt and that safely suffice from a hydration/nutrition standpoint?
I wouldn’t think you could safely ride with a bladder system stuffed down your kit to suffice for most people’s hydration needs for an LC event.
You can’t unless you come to a complete stop and pull it out at an aid station. But the size of bladder most people are using carries 70oz of fluid, that’s the equivalent of 2.5 bottles. So it doesn’t preclude having some additional bottles on the frame but it delays when you may need to use an aid station. And when it’s empty, you can blow into the bite valve and keep it inflated.
How does someone refill the bladders on the bike? Are you suggesting someone can do a LC event on 1 “hydration bladder” down your shirt and that safely suffice from a hydration/nutrition standpoint?
I wouldn’t think you could safely ride with a bladder system stuffed down your kit to suffice for most people’s hydration needs for an LC event.
1.5L for 70.3 and 3L for full.
I have a bottle between the bars as well.
Drinking out of that bladder is way safer and easier and less obtrusive than getting up and one handing it and putting it back in and reduces the support needed on course.
Last 2 races I did I took nothing.
3L. of water is almost 7 pounds of weight. I would just wonder how that’s handled with bike handling and again on re-filling. I wouldn’t think you could refill an camelbak bladder type of system, so you’d still have to likely do an frame bottle or BTA setup.
But almost everything on a bike is a faring at this point. Extensions that cover the whole width. Derailuer covers. Valve covers. The crazy front end hydration systems.
Triathlon was great when it was the wild Wild West. Now it’s becoming the UCI
But almost everything on a bike is a faring at this point. Extensions that cover the whole width. Derailuer covers. Valve covers. The crazy front end hydration systems.
Triathlon was great when it was the wild Wild West. Now it’s becoming the UCI
I’d say it would be better if it was like the UCI. At least the rules would be clear and how much money you can spend on aero testing would be less of a factor.
In triathlon, some of the rules seem to be greatly different from the application. “Fairings are prohibited” by IM rules. Yet of course triathlon bikes are full of fairings. It’s just that the interpretation is very wide and the application of this is very lax.
3L. of water is almost 7 pounds of weight. I would just wonder how that’s handled with bike handling and again on re-filling. I wouldn’t think you could refill an camelbak bladder type of system, so you’d still have to likely do an frame bottle or BTA setup.
Well, put another way, 3L is the equivalent of 3.5 regular water bottles. If you saw a bike in transition for a full IM and it had two bottles behind the seat and one on the down tube would you have thoughts about the weight? Because it’s the same.
I have some sympathy for this view, however I really don’t think people sticking a $10 bottle down their suit is an appropriate target for the rulemakers. It’s not expensive or inaccessible (far from it), and it has a genuine purpose other than aerodynamics (hydration and cooling). I could be swayed to support a limitation on volume or a requirement that they not be empty at the start of the bike.
I would much prefer they ban the ridiculous $2000+ custom shaped aerobar extensions than this. I mean, Ditlev’s is basically a fuselage! Simply stating that extensions need to be round in shape for at least 3/4 of their length and no greater than X diameter would probably do the trick.
I wouldn’t think it’s the same because it’s 1 location of mass weight vs what happens now with the weight distributed throught the bike (BTA, downtube, or BTS).
I wouldn’t think it’s the same because it’s 1 location of mass weight vs what happens now with the weight distributed throught the bike (BTA, downtube, or BTS).
Doesn’t feel different habdling at all. The only issue is running with the bike out of t1, you need to support your bladder/belly to keep the bladder from sliding all the way down to your crotch. Cycling you don’t notice it much and feels much better than when I had two bottles on the back (and easier to mount/dismount for me).