Okay, I don’t believe that BMC is changing their TM01 2015 models, but Cannondale is launching its new non-UCI legal Slice.
So, looking at dropping my 70.3 and 140.6 times, do I invest in the aerodynamics of the TM01 or the quality and low-weight of the Slice? I’ll likely go with Dura Ace Di2 and keep my Envie 6.7s that I have on my 2012 P3.
As a backgrounder, I’m 5’8", 145 lbs and think that I could be fit for either bike.
Interested in hearingabout experiences with either bike.
Thanks.
Everyone I know with a TM01 or TM02 absolutely loves 'em.
I have a TMR01 (aero road) and love the ride so much that i’ve ended up racing it in a couple of tris over my orbea TT bike. The TMR01 is a bit of a grundelbuster at first, but if you’re used to stiff TT bikes it’ll feel right at home. I imagine the same can be said for the TM01/TM02.
~DE
do you train with your racing wheels ? if so, no prob with the BMC.
if not, are your training wheels same width ? Changing brake width on the rear is a PITA on the TM01
Marcag, I both race and train on my Envies. However, i will be swapping out my rear to a training wheel when I’m on my CompuTrainer. But brakes won’t be an issue here, and I believe that the crappy engineering has to do with the front brakes. Thanks so the reply.
The BMC TM01 is one amazing bike. I’ve had quite a few bikes over the years, but this one is truly spectacular.
I have a TM02 and agree with the above posts. Get the BMC. Amazingly fast and beautiful. The cannondale may be light, but you will be giving up way too much in the aero department.
I have a TM02 and agree with the above posts. Get the BMC. Amazingly fast and beautiful. The cannondale may be light, but you will be giving up way too much in the aero department.
Go with the TM01! Aero > weight 99% of the time.
And like the other post said, adjusting brake width can be a pain. My suggestion is try to find some trainer wheels (if you do wanna swap out for training) that are the same width. I have a Super 9 clincher in the rear and it’s a nightmare. I’m thinking of switching discs to
something slimmer just because of that.
"The cannondale may be light, but you will be giving up way too much in the aero department. ’
Where did you find that data…love to see it
AeroGeeks says the Slice rates well: http://aerogeeks.com/2014/10/15/the-new-cannondale-slice-first-look/
AeroGeeks says the Slice rates well: http://aerogeeks.com/...le-slice-first-look/
In this current generation of bikes, I am surprised that something that is that much “worse” than a Shiv and a P3 (the old P3, that has been around for almost a decade?) rates “well.”
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scroll down.
with an aero chainring and vision base bar, it apparently tests about the same as the Shiv and the New P3. They don’t say what the Shiv and the NP3 were dressed with though.
Well then I don’t believe the #s
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why?
the P3 has deeper tubes, but the Slice is using a kamm profile, which is supposed to be equal to deeper tubes with a naca profile. I would assume that they were running the testing honestly, not fudging numbers.
why?
the P3 has deeper tubes, but the Slice is using a kamm profile, which is supposed to be equal to deeper tubes with a naca profile. I would assume that they were running the testing honestly, not fudging numbers.
I would think the results would be very different if the P3 and Shiv had the same aero bar and same aero crank. You just need to look at the first windtunnel results in that article.
well, we don’t know what they had, but we might be able to make some assumptions…
the stock p3 comes with 3t aura pro basebar and stem and non-aero chainring, which the base slice (non-upgraded) comes with a round basebar and non-aero chainring. the aura pro would put the basebar pretty close to the vision bar on the second graph.
my suspicion is that the basebar is worth more to aero than the chainrings, someone else can verify this. So the slice might be slightly worse than the np3, but still in the ballpark.
Wonder if it includes the 81mm deep vision wheels as well.
Not much better than Cervelo’s S5 marketing, “saves 21 watts over last year *disclaimer includes deep HEDS and aero profile bars”
I don’t know how aerogeeks get away with saying “Being that this is not a superbike (and not coming with a superbike price” when the DI2 equipped with crap wheels is 8.5k CDN and top spec is 10.8k CDN. Is this compared to a new BMW s1000rr at 14k ?
well, if they did that…
I like the new Slice. not that I’m upgrading my p2sl anytime soon…
I m going the opposite way from aerodynamic to low-weight/nice ride. Am selling my P5-Six Red, and have ordered a Cannondale Slice Black Inc with stock wheels being swapped to Lightweight Fernwegs. Should be one hell of a fun ride. 
Aim is to have a relative lightweight Bike over a so called aerodynamic bike, although I think the whole aero only really benefits those who can really cycle and who probably notice it more than me. I have a few hilly 70.3 this season, and I thought lets try something new. Struggled at Ironman Mallorca (5hr 46mins) on my P5 as it felt relative sluggish up the hill, but that could also be my legs and my nutrition failure along the way. Weight of the P5 is relative heavy in comparison to the Slice, and the Slice will be easier to travel with!
Will report back once the Slice arrives, but got told February for delivery in the UK. So still a bit to wait.
Are we sure the P3 in the graph is the new P3?
also, without sizes, and more details its really hard to draw conclusions.
I do not think it is, I am not sure why the assumption is being made that it IS the np3.
I tend to think it is not as well but its just a hunch.