Bike: How do you know if your seat is too high?

I’ve been thinking about the ST mantra, “Your seat is too high!”, for a while after my seat was raised during my retul fit.
It feels really really great, but presumably people riding with a too-high seat aren’t aware of the issue else they’d change it …

How do you know if your seat is too high (other than having someone very knowledgeable tell you)? What are the implications/effects?

I did a search on ST: all I could find was an article that said leg muscles tighten with use, so what starts out ok could be too high on a long ride.
This sounds like you would start rocking your hips on long rides if your saddle was too high - something you would probably notice.
I’ve gone long and haven’t noticed any issues. Not that I’m the most observant, but still…
I suppose my worry is that it isn’t something you would necessarily notice on the bike, rather it would materialize during your run.

What are the implications/effects of too high a seat?

Thank you.

Other than beratement on ST?

Having your seat too high can potentially lead to knee problems (usually the back of the knee). It can also reduce comfort and pedaling efficiency.

Given how a Retul fit is done, it’s unlikely your seat is overly high since they would notice an irregular knee angle, or hip wobble and correct that in the fit.

If you are comfortable and injury free I wouldn’t sweat it.

Other than beratement on ST?

Just rolling the dice on that one… :slight_smile:

Having your seat too high can potentially lead to knee problems (usually the back of the knee). It can also reduce comfort and pedaling efficiency.

Strange then that so many posters would have that issue. Hard to ignore a painful knee. Inefficient pedaling on the other hand could be easily missed.

If you are comfortable and injury free I wouldn’t sweat it.

Cool, thank you.

I feel like it’s pain that would build up over time?

My completely uneducated guess.

atc can measure your knee angle at full extension and check ya for sure.

but if you have to rock your hips on the saddle, or point your toes way down to avoid rocking your hips - too high!

mostly it just causes people to wiggle around in their seat. which is a waste of energy.

Pain under kneecap = seat too low.

Pain behind knee = seat too high.

Pain in the quads, calves, and lungs = seat height perfect. :wink:

Pain under kneecap = seat too low.

Pain behind knee = seat too high.

Pain in the quads, calves, and lungs = seat height perfect. :wink:
I really like that last one

atc can measure your knee angle at full extension and check ya for sure.

but if you have to rock your hips on the saddle, or point your toes way down to avoid rocking your hips - too high!

Wouldn’t it depend which way your hips were rocking…? If you go towards the downstroke, you’re trying to effectively decrease your saddleheight, if away from it, you’re trying to increase your saddleheight (and hip angle)

This is probably a question that cannot be answered. I have been riding for about 3 years and the seat always felt like it was adjusted perfectly. I already have the seat back as far as it will go and moving it down is going to move it forward a little. When I put the ball of my running shoes on the pedal to ride, the knee will be slightly bent at full pedal stroke.

you will feel it in the back of your knee and you will notice fast. sometimes to make up for a high saddle you will point your feet down to compensate as well which can cause achilles issues.

There are plenty of formulas posted on this site, search threads from “Andrew Coggan”. You can then finish the adjustment using “feel”.

Here’s a thread about saddle height: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=1163166#1163166

Post 46 has the steps for the calculation.

Here’s a thread about saddle height: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...post=1163166#1163166
Post 46 has the steps for the calculation.

Good post - I’m legit, just shouldn’t raise it any more.

Thanks, everyone. I’ve learned a bit which is always fun.