A bill to introduce a database of pregnancies.
Cool, and not big brotherish in any way, shape, or form.
But the left!!!
A bill to introduce a database of pregnancies.
Cool, and not big brotherish in any way, shape, or form.
But the left!!!
Try at least respectable news source doofus
Uh huh. And this totally wouldn’t be ripe for abuse to track if women got abortions. No sir.
Uh huh. And this totally wouldn’t be ripe for abuse to track if women got abortions. No sir.
List out the features of the bill verbatim.
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Where does it create a database? Chapter and verse please
Are you ok with provisions D and E on p.22:
https://www.britt.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/MOMS-Act_FINAL-Britt_Rubio_Cramer1.pdf
Seems extreme to require states to allow child support from conception upon consultation with the mother (no mention of the father) and to say that paternity tests can only be required upon the mother’s consent.
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Where does it create a database? Chapter and verse please
Did you read the title of the “reputable source†you linked to?
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
Words and accuracy don’t matter in Canada
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
Words and accuracy don’t matter in Canada
Do the toilets at least flush in the correct direction up there?
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
Words and accuracy don’t matter in Canada
Do the toilets at least flush in the correct direction up there?
They don’t have indoor plumbing
Fuck that noise. The liars who said that Roe was settled law are lying again.
There’s no good reason to trust liars when they say that the government pregnancy website will collect information from women but won’t use information against women or women’s doctors.
The government should provide information without requiring women to share their own personal information. This bill says the website will collect user information through a series of questions in order to give information.
If women want to give information, they can give it confidentially to their doctors. That way we know the information is safe.
Fuck that noise. The liars who said that Roe was settled law are lying again.
There’s no good reason to trust liars when they say that the government pregnancy website will collect information from women but won’t use information against women or women’s doctors.
The government should provide information without requiring women to share their own personal information. This bill says the website will collect user information through a series of questions in order to give information.
If women want to give information, they can give it confidentially to their doctors. That way we know the information is safe.
This …
Especially looking at the sponsors of the bill. I’m sure Britt and Rubio have nothing but the best interests of women in mind and that the bill would never result in anything bad happening.
If you have daughters, and if you want them to truly have equal rights, I have no idea why you would support the current r party.
drn92
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
It does not say that HHS cannot track user information. It needs their consent to contact them, but nothing requires consent for other purposes.
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
It does not say that HHS cannot track user information. It needs their consent to contact them, but nothing requires consent for other purposes.
I didn’t see that in the bill.
https://www.britt.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/MOMS-Act_FINAL-Britt_Rubio_Cramer1.pdf
I read it and didn’t see anything that would truly be objectionable to Democrats other than it makes abortion providers ineligible for grants and being listed as a pregnancy resource.
What did you find objectionable?
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
It does not say that HHS cannot track user information. It needs their consent to contact them, but nothing requires consent for other purposes.
Am I the only person who gives websites fake names, emails, and phone numbers when they ask for it? The only person with a junk email account? The only person that denies cookies on websites?
Because unless pregnancy.gov requires SSN and photo ID I don’t see this as an insurmountable hurdle for women to access a wealth of potentially valuable information much less catalog and track them.
Do we have specifics on how and what info is going to be asked or “required†to get full benefit of then site.
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
It does not say that HHS cannot track user information. It needs their consent to contact them, but nothing requires consent for other purposes.
Am I the only person who gives websites fake names, emails, and phone numbers when they ask for it? The only person with a junk email account? The only person that denies cookies on websites?
Because unless pregnancy.gov requires SSN and photo ID I don’t see this as an insurmountable hurdle for women to access a wealth of potentially valuable information much less catalog and track them.
Do we have specifics on how and what info is going to be asked or “required†to get full benefit of then site.
The bill actually has privacy requirements in it, just saying
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
It does not say that HHS cannot track user information. It needs their consent to contact them, but nothing requires consent for other purposes.
Am I the only person who gives websites fake names, emails, and phone numbers when they ask for it? The only person with a junk email account? The only person that denies cookies on websites?
Because unless pregnancy.gov requires SSN and photo ID I don’t see this as an insurmountable hurdle for women to access a wealth of potentially valuable information much less catalog and track them.
Do we have specifics on how and what info is going to be asked or “required†to get full benefit of then site.
The bill actually has privacy requirements in it, just saying
I’d have to re-read it but I thought that was only for the first 180 days to handle feedback. I could be wrong.
You’re right. It never specifically says that they will use this database to track pregnancies and arrest women in states where it’s illegal to get an abortion so I guess that wouldn’t happen!
What was I thinking?
Hang on, unless I’m reading this wrong then you’re the one that’s reading it wrong. The call isn’t to create a database of the pregnant women. It’s to create a database of resources and providers FOR pregnant women.
And it says it may ask for contact info of the women. But that’s no different than any other site I sign up for. It doesn’t mean than any of those women are currently pregnant. They could just be doing research and planning ahead.
So again, by my cursory read the database is of providers, not the pregnant women.
It does not say that HHS cannot track user information. It needs their consent to contact them, but nothing requires consent for other purposes.
Am I the only person who gives websites fake names, emails, and phone numbers when they ask for it? The only person with a junk email account? The only person that denies cookies on websites?
Because unless pregnancy.gov requires SSN and photo ID I don’t see this as an insurmountable hurdle for women to access a wealth of potentially valuable information much less catalog and track them.
Do we have specifics on how and what info is going to be asked or “required†to get full benefit of then site.
The bill actually has privacy requirements in it, just saying
I’d have to re-read it but I thought that was only for the first 180 days to handle feedback. I could be wrong.
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