Bible thumping Kansas creationists support paedophilia

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Did you know you can marry a 12 year old girl in Kansas if her pappy says its OK? God bless Kansas.

07-26) 17:14 PDT Lincoln, Neb. (AP) –

A 22-year-old man faces criminal charges in Nebraska for having sex with an underage 13-year-old girl, although he legally married her in Kansas after she became pregnant.

The man’s lawyer said the couple, with their families’ support, “made a responsible decision to try to cope with the problem.”

Matthew Koso, 22, was charged Monday with first-degree sexual assault, punishable by up to 50 years in prison. He was released on $7,500 bail pending an Aug. 17 preliminary hearing.

After the girl became pregnant, her mother gave permission in May for Koso to take the young woman to Kansas, which allows minors to get married with parental consent. The girl is now 14 and seven months pregnant.

“The idea … is repugnant to me,” said Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning. “These people made the decision to send their … 14-year-old daughter to Kansas to marry a pedophile.”

He said the marriage is valid, thanks to the “ridiculous” Kansas law, “but it doesn’t matter. I’m not going to stand by while a grown man … has a relationship with a 13-year-old — now 14-year-old — girl.”

Bruning, who has said he will seek a second term in 2006, has aggressively prosecuted sex crimes against children since he was elected in 2002

The couple were married in May by a judge in Hiawatha, Kan., just across the state line from Falls City.

Nebraska requires people to be at least 17 before they can marry.

Kansas law, however, sets no minimum marriage age, although case law sets the minimum age at 14 for boys and 12 for girls. The marriage must be approved by both parents or guardian, or by a district court judge, said Whitney Watson, spokesman for Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline. A judge also must approve if only one parent approves.

Koso’s lawyer, Willis Yoesel, said the girl’s mother and Koso’s parents approved of the marriage. He said the girl’s father has not lived with the family for some time.

“It seems to me like they, as much as they could, made a responsible decision to try to cope with the problem,” Yoesel said.

“The families are all united in this effort,” Yoesel said. “I don’t know who is complaining. … What benefit is there to anybody in the prosecution of this young man?”

There was no comment from Koso, who does not have a listed telephone number.

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what does this have to do with “creationists”?

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Dude what a troll!!!

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Still a pretty messed up law, don’t you think?

The creationists thing came up, I’m guessing, because Kansas has creation “science” as part of it’s public school system.

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Still a pretty messed up law, don’t you think?

Personally, I don’t like it, but I don’t live in Kansas. So I guess it isn’t really any of my business.

What do you think the cut-off age must be? Not 13, so how about 14? Not 14 either? Fifteen? No? Sixteen? What?

And I don’t know why it shocks everyone so much. These kids are going to have sex anyway, right, and to expect otherwise is just to deny and oppress nature, right? So it’s OK for them to have sex, but messed up for them to marry?

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Personally, I don’t like it, but I don’t live in Kansas. So I guess it isn’t really any of my business.

Great attitude.What do you think the cut-off age must be? Not 13, so how about 14? Not 14 either? Fifteen? No? Sixteen? What?

How about at least the age of consent?

And I don’t know why it shocks everyone so much. These kids are going to have sex anyway, right, and to expect otherwise is just to deny and oppress nature, right? So it’s OK for them to have sex, but messed up for them to marry?

It’s not shocking that 13 year old have sex, though I dont like that either. It’s shocking when a 22 year old rapes a 13 year-old and is allowed to legitimize that by marrying his victim.

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what does that have to do with this case?

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How about at least the age of consent?

“Consent,” the new buzzword of those who want to ban certain practices they find icky, while allowing practices others find icky.

What *is *the age of consent in Kansas? (I think we covered this before, but I forget.)

And if we’re going to be such sticklers for the age of consent, let’s just go on and apply it consistently. If you’re too immature to grant consent to have sex with a 22 year old, you’re too immature to grant consent to some other oversexed 13 year old, too.

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What is the age of consent in Kansas?

Why dont you look it up on ageofconsent.com?

If you’re too immature to grant consent to have sex with a 22 year old, you’re too immature to grant consent to some other oversexed 13 year old, too.

The law would agree with you in some states, disagree in others.

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**The law would agree with you in some states, disagree in others. **

Well, yeah. But those laws are rarely enforced, as we both know. And the question isn’t the legality, anyway- it’s perfectly legal for this marriage in Kansas, and you’re all grossed out by it.

Hardly anyone is similarly grossed out by a couple or three 13 year olds having sex, anymore. So arguments about how they’re too young to give consent seem a bit strained to me.

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Why dont you look it up on ageofconsent.com?

And I’d just like to say that I find it a little disturbing that you have that website so quick at hand. You been hanging out with Demerly, or something?

:wink:

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So I looked and it’s illegal for the 13 year old to have sex but she can get married and trump the age of consent law. Ewwww.

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wonder how old that law is. Reminds me of some silly laws that some states have that say you can’t have more than a certain number of women living in the same house. Don’t want whorehouses now do we, but now just makes it so some colleges can’t have sorority houses.

This is probably one of those leftover laws that the legislators were too “busy” to change and now it’s coming back to bite 'em in the ass. Although, we are talking about Kansas here so I could be totally wrong and I wouldn’t be too surprised.

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Kansas…where a consenting adult male can’t marry another consenting adult male but he can have his pick of the states 7th grade girls.

And people say San Francisco is messed up! HA HA HA HA

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And I don’t know why it shocks everyone so much. These kids are going to have sex anyway, right, and to expect otherwise is just to deny and oppress nature, right? So it’s OK for them to have sex, but messed up for them to marry?
I hope you were being sarcastic Vitus.

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I hope you were being sarcastic Vitus.

Not really, no.

(And wait! Before we get any deeper into this, think- is this one of those times when, as an open-minded liberal, you think you’re probably wrong?)

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So you’re saying its fine for the State of Kansas to sanction and legalize a union between a 12 year old girl and a 40 year old man just because they have been having sex??? and that somehow a marriage license will make it all OK???

Weren’t you the guy advocating abstinence programs for teens a while back?? I guess abstinence for teens is cool but 12 year olds can be sold into sexual slavery if their daddy is cool with it.

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Hardly anyone is similarly grossed out by a couple or three 13 year olds having sex, anymore. So arguments about how they’re too young to give consent seem a bit strained to me.

Isn’t it fair to say that while a couple of 13 year olds having sex is gross, it’s much more gross for some scumbag 22 year old to get a 13 year old to have sex?

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Well, you sort of answered my question, I guess. You didn’t say if you *thought *you’re wrong, of course, but you *are *wrong. That’s not what I said.

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**Isn’t it fair to say that while a couple of 13 year olds having sex is gross, it’s much more gross for some scumbag 22 year old to get a 13 year old to have sex? **

Yeah, but like I said, hardly anyone says that first part anymore. Which is sort of key, I think.