https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.
Checks calendars, shakes head. Nope, not April 1st…
Doesn’t look that bad, barely noticeable with some colors I bet. It’s an aero bike doing cool aero things, don’t get the hate?
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.
Air deflectors that add drag but reduce drag on the (???) top tube? Seems like the aerodynamics version of ‘feels before reals’.
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.
Air deflectors that add drag but reduce drag on the (???) top tube? Seems like the aerodynamics version of ‘feels before reals’.
Nevermind in my head “deflector†is roughly “fairingâ€.
Nor that F1 cars go like 10x faster than bicycles.
“stiff and responsive”
The 1990s called: they want their marketing slogan back.
Deflectors, trips, etc are very real but I’m sure the marketing team has gotten their hands on this. I think the wannabe cervelo S5 stem “idea†with the hole being right behind where the head unit will most likely sit is hysterical.
… thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Wait, isn’t the whole point to eliminate the low-pressure zone? Gotta’ love marketers.
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.
Air deflectors that add drag but reduce drag on the (???) top tube? Seems like the aerodynamics version of ‘feels before reals’.
hey, cadex felt it beneficial to remove the top tube completely… and that bike makes the bianchi look like a thing of beauty!
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.
Air deflectors that add drag but reduce drag on the (???) top tube? Seems like the aerodynamics version of ‘feels before reals’.
If you’re buying a bianchi (or pinarello or colnago or similar) thats already baked in to the buying decision, overall, I’d say. I think more than any, these brands are sought not for their tech merits, but moreso (or entirely) the letters on the downtube.
Pinarellos have tested very well in the tunnel and ride very nicely. Some Colnagos ride like butter, in a good way.
But generally it’s probably true that they attract snobs more than people who value the tech, even if it’s there in some cases. It’s the BMW, Rolex, Moncler, Bose/Beats crowd.
I think more than any, these brands are sought not for their tech merits, but moreso (or entirely) the letters on the downtube.
Is that not true for any cycling brand? There’s people who would only buy Cannondale, many on this forum would only buy Cervelo. Most of tech differences between bikes can’t easily be evaluated so you’re really buying on a belief rather than on an observed truth. The sentence “If you’re buying a… thats already baked in to the buying decision, overall, I’d say” can be completed with virtually any brand. Take out that name and most bikes become undistinguishable from each other.
Although the comment could be more true for some brands than for others, if you kept it about one single brand i could have understood it but if you’re expanding it to a list of historical Italian brands then I surely disagree and wonder if there’s a little bias and own personal brand preference?
Surely it can’t be that (fill in with whichever brands you think do real tech stuff) are the ones doing real tech and Italian brands are just style and marketing and fluff.
Italian cycling is still going strong and there’s a lot of technical knowledge about bicycles and aerodynamics in Italy and Italian bicycles are winning races so surely those brands must be doing something right and aren’t just chosen for the lettering on the downtube.
The reality is that the aero differences between bike frames are minimal and it’s the bike fit to the athletes the thing that truly makes the difference. After all bicycles (and especially road bicycles) don’t look that different from 100 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6N_Q-QvCf4 Hambini has now shared this: https://youtu.be/Pvb8xbtcmM8
15 useful minutes
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Yes it’s true but for different priorities. If you’re a budget buyer, you may prioritize a DTC brand like canyon or QR for more value. All I was saying that if your priority is the particular style and history, bianchi fits the bill like few others.
Even Dan said in the thread about gannas bike, he doesn’t view pinarello as a true pioneer in terms of tech. I’m paraphrasing but that was the point. I don’t mean to lump all these fancy Italian brands into one but I feel that itself is their #1 strength…that they’re a fancy Italian brand.
No bias at all actually. Quite the opposite. I love all these brands. The specialissima is one of my dream bikes in fact. But it furthers my point - I just think it’s cool and stylish and heck, it’s a bianchi! They’re among the most stylish bikes out there. But zero reason I want the specialissima has to do with how it’s lighter than another brand, or it’s stiffer than whatever, or any tech specifically. I just want it because it’s a bianchi and it’s really freaking cool. If the exact same bike had a different name on the downtube, I probably wouldn’t want it.
I think more than any, these brands are sought not for their tech merits, but moreso (or entirely) the letters on the downtube.
Is that not true for any cycling brand? There’s people who would only buy Cannondale, many on this forum would only buy Cervelo. Most of tech differences between bikes can’t easily be evaluated so you’re really buying on a belief rather than on an observed truth. The sentence “If you’re buying a… thats already baked in to the buying decision, overall, I’d say” can be completed with virtually any brand. Take out that name and most bikes become undistinguishable from each other.
Although the comment could be more true for some brands than for others, if you kept it about one single brand i could have understood it but if you’re expanding it to a list of historical Italian brands then I surely disagree and wonder if there’s a little bias and own personal brand preference?
Surely it can’t be that (fill in with whichever brands you think do real tech stuff) are the ones doing real tech and Italian brands are just style and marketing and fluff.
Italian cycling is still going strong and there’s a lot of technical knowledge about bicycles and aerodynamics in Italy and Italian bicycles are winning races so surely those brands must be doing something right and aren’t just chosen for the lettering on the downtube.
The reality is that the aero differences between bike frames are minimal and it’s the bike fit to the athletes the thing that truly makes the difference. After all bicycles (and especially road bicycles) don’t look that different from 100 years ago.
Of course there’s bias and personal preference, purchasing is a discriminatory act.
Italian brands are roughly on par with every other frame manufacturer aerodynamically but generally more expensive and more stylized. Understandable then how people may conclude that the extra cost is going to towards style not performance. This is especially true of the flagship Italian brands Pinarello and Bianchi.
This is especially true of the flagship Italian brands Pinarello and Bianchi.
Colnago tends to be understated/retro in style/design and 3T is “North American” in style and design (with an obvious reason).
Just a counterpoint.
It’s definitely sucking
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.
Update, admitting that frame with deflectors not UCI legal. But can ship with or without. What snakeoil.
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchis-oltre-air-deflector-tech-isnt-uci-legal-296865
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/bianchi-unveils-radical-new-oltre-aero-road-bike-296679
“ designed and integrated Air Deflectors (patent pending) into the sides of the head tube, thus channelling airflow and creating a low-pressure zone at the rear of the tube,†says Bianchi.
Uhm, yuck. Sorry, lookup the photo if you want but that’s just too ugly to post.