Continuing the discussion from Kanute Takes On The Enemy of Speed with ZIPP:
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I wonder how much the 8 watt position savings was due to him simply raising his hands?
A lot. The bars changed in angle, type of bars, width, and more.
The pics donāt load for me on mobile.
I have been wondering for a while if Ben was too low or ātoo aeroā and his power suffers because of it. In the bigger races, he canāt quite seem to go with the front guys on the bike the last couple years. I thought maybe if he raised his pad y, would his power increase with minimal cda changes.
Glad to see him on new extensions. Heās one of the very few trek proās to still use the stock ones. I have wondered why he hasnāt switched sooner.
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If you go view it from the article on the front page, they are there.
As for this forumā¦
If you use the img tag - bbcode or html - it should just cause the post to render the remote image. But thatās not what happens here. This forum somehow tries to save a copy of that remote image (which it shouldnāt do) - and then afterwards the image is broken.
Another item for @SlowtwitchSupport
Interesting how the new paradigm seems to be converging on pad height higher than youād think, tilted hands way out in front, and Darth Vader helmet behind hands to close the gap.
Iām curious if anyoneās gone in the opposite direction or if this type of position is now standard enough to be considered orthodox / standard best practice.
Slowtwitch team, this was BY FAR the best piece of visual/audio content youāve put out since Iāve been around here. Well done on this one and hopefully thereās more to come.
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2 different bikes or just different paint?
I didnāt see it talked about in the video
Nice editing! Glad you included the part where the team of aero specialists and a pro seeking aero gains choose their transport to the wind tunnel: a pickup truck. 
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Correct. 2 different bikes. Same Fame and Same Wheels. The one was used to get the BASE line test the other one had the new bars on ( this just simply saved them a lot of time as wind tunnel time of $$
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It was perfect for Mr American 
See here, son, thatās called āmurican round these parts
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Great to see local legend Paraic as well.
Hey Jim, did Ben test a BTS two bottle set up?
They tested the cost of 1 and 3 bottles. It was no aero cost difference to run 3 vs 1, so pretty safe to assume 2 will not have a cost, but they didnāt run a two bottle set-up.
And was this sort of the traditional 45 degree angled, close to sadlle set up or did he test it as bottles laying horizontal? Sorry for the wonky questions, Iām setting upa new bike for Kona and going back and forth on this.
They didnt test any of that becuase the reuslts would be so small that itās not even worth the timeā¦I can tell you right nowā¦ The best thing you can do is put the rear cage on so that it doesnt fall out and its the easiest for you to grab.
Yeah I agree, I was just curious to see what the efficacy was of mounting bottles horizontal and often double stacked. It seems to create quite a bother in regards to pulling them in and out but there must be a reason so many seem to be doing it in the pro field.
Does anyone know what rear hydration mounting system Ben is using?
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Not sure that Bontrager makes it anymore, but, I believe this is the one Ben is using. Itās designed to work with the Hilo saddle