Not much to do with triathlon, but this court case has many implications for future Olympics and the use of drugs. Fail any drug test during the Olympics and you lose ALL your medals.
http://canoe.ca/Slam031218/ski_scott-cp.html
I remember Beckie Scott flatly accusing her competitors of doping after the race. Dick Pound, president of the Canadian Olympic Committee, said she should keep her mouth shut cause she didnt know what she was talking about! Well, eat some crow, Dick!
Go Beckie!
Yeah baby, now we got an Olympic XC gold medalist, an Olympic Tri Gold medalist, and the mens’ and womens’ raining Hawaii Ironman Champions. I’m proud to say that I AM CANADIAN :-). Now how come Beckie, Simon, Peter and Lori are so fast and I’m so slow. Must be the genetics cause I swear I train as hard as some of my pro friends (at times …) :-).
Seriously though, it is nice to see a great athlete like Beckie Scott get the medal she rightly deserves.
Dev
Here’s to being Canadian, guys!!
This will help inpisre me to get on the rollers.
{Now how come Beckie, Simon, Peter and Lori are so fast and I’m so slow}reply
Weren’t you like top 15 at Tupper Lake last year? That ain’t slow my man.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer girl, Beck’s a sweetheart. If her old man wasn’t a buddy, I’d have him bumped off by professionals, then move in to console her…
I was standing on the big hill a few days after Beckie’s race, during the men’s 50k, watching an obviously doped-stoopid German/Spaniard tear up the hill for the last lap, looking like it was his first.
When the Norwegian guy in 4th came by looking like he’d been yanked through a knot-hole, I told my buddy Luken, “That’s what it looks like to do a 50k without EPO.”
God bless the Norwegians, when they start doping, it’s all over.
Although I’m happy to see justice served…It’s a slippery slope to assume someone’s doped because they are kicking ass…
Based upon that logic, we should seriously question Lance’s first 4 Tour wins…
Dev is already scary fast…He just needs to cut out Epicman and he’ll own IMUSA next year.
Well Puskas and Heschel (sp), I seem to be able to eek out some form of speed from my body up to half Ironman and yes, I was top 15, in the past at Tupper, but I believe 19th this year. Puskas, you are likely on to something with respect to Epicman…always feel studly at Epicman, then lame 5 weeks later at Ironman LP. Perhaps too much too close ? That being said, we did Epicman (2k swim/180K bike/21.1.K run) 8 days before Tupper and I went like 4:26 or so at Tupper. I think they just need to shorten all Ironmans to a 21.1K run. That is the perfect distance after 180K of biking…
But enough of that, this thread is supposed to be about Beckie Scott. For those interested, Beckie will be flying in between World Cups in Europe to make an appearance (and we are told, compete in the 25K event) at the Keskinada World Loppet 50K race on 15 Feb, right hear in Ottawa, Canada (actually Gatineau Quebec which is on the other side of the river.
Finally, anyone from this forum racing the Lake Placid 50K XC Loppet on Jan 24th, 2004. That’s the start of my 2004 season…50K and 4000 feet of climbing…Yikes !
Since the German/Spaniard tested positive later that day, I guess the slope wasn’t so slippery.
There’s a level of information out there that’s not available to recreational athletes, and that’s a good thing, everyone needs heroes.
And call me a(n)(informed) skeptic, but I don’t personally think the TDF has ever been won “stock”. I’d bet that this view is shared (but not broadcast) by the vast majority of people who’ve ridden in the TDF, as well.
If you’re bored, here’s a classic article from Outside Mag on the inner lubrication of the TDF:
http://outside.away.com/magazine/0799/9907tour.html
b
I’m a little late joining in, but I wanted to add my YAHOO FOR BECKIE!!! I actually yelled for joy yesterday when I heard it on the news!! I’m sure it would have been nicer for her to get the gold the day of the race, but at least she got it now.
I don’t follow XC skiing that closely, but I believe I’ve read a few articles where the Canadian women’s team as a whole has been very vocal about doping in the sport - not just Beckie. It’s great to see them reaping the benefits of bringing it out in the open. Maybe now the Canadian government will actually give them money so they can train properly. Probably not - they’ll just complain when the next Olympics come around and wonder why we don’t have more athletes on the podium!
D.
Well, if the funding is lacking (which it will probably be) the women’s team can always do another calendar 
.
I see the slippery slope. However, actually, it should be a while flag of sorts when someone crushes a world class field the way the guy did in the 50K at Salt Lake City. He did the same in the 30K earlier in the week. At this level, there is not that much between the top guys. 5 - 10 seconds, sure, waiting minutes and more minutes for other world class skiers to come in, then something is POSSIBLY amiss.
Not a fair comparison with Lance Armstrong and the Tour de France. Yes he wins the Tour by 4, 5 6 minutes, but that margin is eked out second by second over three weeks of time.
The amazing thing about Dev is that he is just as fast as he was 10 - 15 years ago, but he’s doing better now than ever. Go Dev go!
From that article: “Eventually Lazutina lost her medals after it was learned she had tested positive for blood doping at World Cup races prior to the Games.”
Are they talking about old-school blood doping like volleyball players used to do where they take out a pint or two of blood a month before the game and then put it back in right before the game or are they talking about drugs? I thought nobody did the former anymore and I didn’t know that they tested (or could test) for it.
I just thought I’d throw in an “I love Dev” comment.
Seriously, 5 years ago, I was new to Ironman and Dev was one of the first people who took the time to shepherd a newbie. His experience and willingness to help others in the sport is fantastic.
Someday, Dev will nail his “perfect race” and Kona will follow for someone who truly deserves to run down Alii Drive on a beautiful night in October. I just hope I’m there to witness it.
Cheers,
Puskas
Based upon that logic, we should seriously question Lance’s first 4 Tour wins…
You said it…and “we” have.
old-school blood doping like volleyball players used to do where they take out a pint or two of blood a month before the game and then put it back in right before the game
what the hell? can you explain what the point of this sort of doping would be? i’ve never heard of it, and i can’t imagine how it would help… or be enough of a health risk to be considered illegal.
I wish they’d nail those Austrian X ctry skiiers (Hoffman and Botvinov) who were found with Blood Doping equip. in their Hotel rooms too. They said they had the flu (?). Unfortunately Carl Swenson got nipped at the line in the Men’s 4x10km by the Austrian Cheaters after the heroic comeback effort he made to challenge for fourth.
It was the old-school way of raising hematocrit.
But it was risky and not always effective. EPO does the same thing without having to draw blood.