Yes I know some people are more sprinters are some are more marathoners.
Just in general which would you say we are set up for ?
I would have to go with marathoners. Outliners are people who can sprint. Evolution wise, we probably caught more things out walking them then catching them in a sprint, I would think.
Oh definitely marathoners. In fact, we are unique on Earth in the ability to run long distances. Our skin is also unique and allows us to cool fast enough to maintain that level of output for a long time.
Read the book Born to Run. It discusses this topic. We’re built more for long distance.
Definitely more like marathoners coz we used to hunt through persistence - the prey would get exhausted, walk up and kill it:
If humans were meant to spend long periods of time on our feet, God would have given us 4 legs instead of 2 like he did for everything else. We’re designed to be intelligent beings with a high level of dexterity (we traded a pair of legs and feet for a pair of arms and hands). Consider other 2 legged animals in creation, they spend a large proportion of their time resting on their can. Our ‘energy store and delivery’ systems are also designed for short bursts, hence our issues with fueling during long endurance competition and training.
Now, as to what we’re better able to adapt to? Neither. Both take specialized training to overcome the limitations of our bodies.
Side note: So tired of hearing about persistence hunting. Anyone that’s ever hunted with primitive weapons knows that it’s bunk. No surviving predatory species hunts that way. Successful predation is about yielding best results with least exertion. Just because some dude wrote one book about one specific tribe and references unproven myths about long-ago days doesn’t mean it’s the most successful or natural culture in the world’s history. There’s a cult of monks in asia that hang 20lb rocks from their peckers all day long too, that doesn’t mean our bodies are meant to do so.
Think survival. Think phenotype variance. We are both. Sometimes sprinting will lead to survival. Sometimes endurance with lead to success. We are definitely both, and all degrees in between. Humans underestimate the feature of natural selection, wobbly stuff.
Oh definitely marathoners. In fact, we are unique on Earth in the ability to run long distances. Our skin is also unique and allows us to cool fast enough to maintain that level of output for a long time.
The pronghorn far outruns and outlasts humans. I figure a pronghorn could do a marathon under an hour, easily.
Humans are impressive, but neither unique nor the best.
If humans were meant to spend long periods of time on our feet, God would have given us 4 legs instead of 2 like he did for everything else. We’re designed to be intelligent beings with a high level of dexterity (we traded a pair of legs and feet for a pair of arms and hands). Consider other 2 legged animals in creation, they spend a large proportion of their time resting on their can. Our ‘energy store and delivery’ systems are also designed for short bursts, hence our issues with fueling during long endurance competition and training.
Now, as to what we’re better able to adapt to? Neither. Both take specialized training to overcome the limitations of our bodies.
Side note: So tired of hearing about persistence hunting. Anyone that’s ever hunted with primitive weapons knows that it’s bunk. No surviving predatory species hunts that way. Successful predation is about yielding best results with least exertion. Just because some dude wrote one book about one specific tribe and references unproven myths about long-ago days doesn’t mean it’s the most successful or natural culture in the world’s history. There’s a cult of monks in asia that hang 20lb rocks from their peckers all day long too, that doesn’t mean our bodies are meant to do so.
Haha, wow. Ignore this guy.
given that we’re slower than pretty much every other creature on the planet that we’d either want to eat, or would want to eat us- endurance is all we’ve got. Ok, we’ve got brains too.
Was this supposed to be in pink?
No pink. Someone let him out of the Lavender room, apparently. I thought Dan had a barbed wire fence, machinegun turrets, and minefields around that place. Guess someone got out?
No pink. Someone let him out of the Lavender room, apparently. I thought Dan had a barbed wire fence, machinegun turrets, and minefields around that place. Guess someone got out?
Unfortunately, you can’t keep creationists silent.
Our ‘energy store and delivery’ systems are also designed for short bursts, hence our issues with fueling during long endurance competition and training.
How many land animals can beat us in a long distance run? There might be some, but nothing comes to mind. Our ability to sweat efficiently to maintain body temperature is the big advantage we have. And if we train for it, we can run all day on nothing but water, using fat as our energy source.
There are many animals that can beat us in a sprint though… damn near all of them that go on 4 legs.
Side note: So tired of hearing about persistence hunting. Anyone that’s ever hunted with primitive weapons knows that it’s bunk.
I’ll grant you that. Not because it was never done, but there are usually much easier ways to catch prey… ie by being slightly clever.
So most likely the human ability for long distance running did not develop from any evolutionary pressure in that direction, but is a byproduct of our hairless and sweaty bodies… which along with wearing clothes allows us to function effectively in a wide range of environments.
Yes I know some people are more sprinters are some are more marathoners.
Just in general which would you say we are set up for ?
I would have to go with marathoners. Outliners are people who can sprint. Evolution wise, we probably caught more things out walking them then catching them in a sprint, I would think.
I don’t think there are too many other large mammals we can out sprint, probably quite a few we could outlast.
The pronghorn far outruns and outlasts humans. I figure a pronghorn could do a marathon under an hour, easily.
Nope. They are sprinters… 2nd fastest animal on earth actually. Persistence hunting works on them. There was a demonstration of this recently not far from where I live.
EDIT: Scratch that. According to these guys, the Pronghorn can run 35 mph for 4 hrs or 55 mph for 1/2 hr. Holy shit! That’s a marathon in 1/2 hr! Persistence hunting could only work if they get them to sprint over and over again.
Mate, let me teach you true bait style. There aren’t actually any four legged animals. Look at the bone structure and you will find that it’s always a combination of 2 arms and 2 legs. Many animals choose to run with their arms as well as their legs.
How many land animals can beat us in a long distance run? There might be some, but nothing comes to mind. Our ability to sweat efficiently to maintain body temperature is the big advantage we have. And if we train for it, we can run all day on nothing but water, using fat as our energy source.
There are many animals that can beat us in a sprint though… damn near all of them that go on 4 legs.
Side note: So tired of hearing about persistence hunting. Anyone that’s ever hunted with primitive weapons knows that it’s bunk.
I’ll grant you that. Not because it was never done, but there are usually much easier ways to catch prey… ie by being slightly clever.
So most likely the human ability for long distance running did not develop from any evolutionary pressure in that direction, but is a byproduct of our hairless and sweaty bodies… which along with wearing clothes allows us to function effectively in a wide range of environments.
You are very misguided about the endurance capabilities of land animals. Both wild and domestic animals blow us out of the water. Coyotes, deer, cattle, buffalo, cattle, horses, goat/sheep species, he11 I’d put money that a turkey can run farther than a human. Man domesticated horses to carry our pathetic bodies over long distances, that’s a fact. Even bears have been known to travel over distances that humans are not capable of covering in the same duration, that’s why we track them on four wheelers and from helicopters.
There’s also no medical proof that any land animal fatigues due to overheating, and no medical fact that proves that having hairy bodies prevents sweating, nor creates a thermal barrier. Just like how UA keeps a runner cooler than being shirtless, the bristly guard hairs that animals carry during the summer provide an evaporative barrier to help maintain their body temperature. Sheep, obviously not counted in this, as they have been bred to maintain their coats, and yes, sheep can die in the summer if they are shorn.
These comments about humans being more endurnant than animals are just silly.
These “facts” and “proofs” you speak of? They only exist in your head.
You mean we should require citations to peer reviewed journals?