I have a premium membership with Training Peaks for a few years now and I am looking for a replacement. After 5 years of having it, they really have not added any new features and the interface is still really bland and they haven’t impressed me with the lack of features on the mobile app. I was thinking of Today’s Plan but from what I recall it is great for cycling but not good for running or swimming or strength training or pretty much anything else. I do like the TP fatigue, Fitness and Form score but the rest is really not that good. What are people using as an alternative?
I don’t really have a good answer for you. I feel exactly the same way. I’ve been a premium member since 1998 or so, when it used to be called Trainingbible.com. I even had lunch with Gear Fischer a couple of times WAAAY back in those days about the original site, and some ideas I’d floated on their forum (back when they had one). A couple of years ago, when TP first started to stagnate I sent in a comment to the help/support site to complain about the stagnation. I had a rational exchange with the support person (not just a cookie cutter), but she acknowledged that the company priorities were elsewhere (brand building, portfolio expanding, etc). I had the same exact exchange again last year…with the same person. Sigh.
I’ve looked at all the options I could find. I haven’t found anything equivalent.
Currently using intervals.icu for Fatigue, Fitness, and From and a bit of analysis. Doesn’t really do the planning as well
I dabbled in Final Surge but a good amount of it is still in BETA. It’s clean and the phone app works well but I don’t think it will ever dig down as deep as TP. They are responsive, I’ve had a few exchanges with them and their plans for the future sounds great, we’ll see how it all gets implemented.
I totally agree with you, but I can’t find a better alternative than Training Peaks right now. It’s the easiest interface to see your workouts and move them around. But they haven’t made any real improvements in the last few years.
They really need to improve the interface for swimming. I end up looking at my swim workouts in Garmin Connect.
I haven’t dabbled with Strava at all. I understand that Trainer Road now has a complete workout calendar, but I imagine that’s cycling focused, even though I think you can set up and track swim and run workouts.
Trainerroad works well for planning, but not for analysis. It does not accept running or swimming workouts from Garmin (or anywhere else to my knowledge) It just lets you check a box that you completed to workout. So I found myself planning in TR, and then looking at analysis in Garmin Connect. I did not like this
I have been looking into todaysplan. Have not pulled the trigger on the free trial yet though.
My run and swim workouts automatically load to Training Peaks through Garmin. I’m not sure whether Garmin sends them to TP or whether TP grabs them from Garmin, but either way it works. You may want to check your settings.
Training peak or trainerroad? I know it works in TP, but I was saying it does not work in TR other than cycling
I find this Chrome extension to be a pretty handy alternative
Looks like SportsTrack is still around. It had a lot of features (especially with swimming) that I actually liked better than Training Peaks. I can’t remember why I stopped using it though.
Yep, Training Peaks has stagnated and there is no indication it is going to improve any time soon.
Their run workouts sync to garmin sucks – can’t change data screens, it always show average for lap making it impossible to use for long intervals on the run for example. You can’t really plan swim workout and push it to garmin from TP, you have to recreate it in Garmin Connect anyhow.
TrainerRoad has better collection of workouts for the bike and it’s sync to garmin/wahoo works perfectly so you can execute all the workouts outdoors – but it does not support run/swim.
TrainingPeaks look and feel is so outdated and bad, it does not help that I’m UX/UI designer and my eyes bleed everytime I have to look on this interface.
Fatique/Fitness/Form chart is probably the only reason why I keep paying $100/year for it, but probably it is time to download your data and migrate somewhere else.
I have a premium membership with Training Peaks for a few years now and I am looking for a replacement. After 5 years of having it, they really have not added any new features and the interface is still really bland and they haven’t impressed me with the lack of features on the mobile app. I was thinking of Today’s Plan but from what I recall it is great for cycling but not good for running or swimming or strength training or pretty much anything else. I do like the TP fatigue, Fitness and Form score but the rest is really not that good. What are people using as an alternative?
Today’s Plan has changed a lot over the past 2 years. When did you last look at it? I work for them, so I am happy to answer questions, define what we offer vs what you’re looking for.
In 2018 the platform moved from only cycling, to multisport, and continues to grow. We add new features all the time, including last week we launched the Friends dashboard access. This allows you to share your workout data with your friends, comment on each other’s workouts, and more, with you selecting specifically who those individuals are that can have access to it.
You’ll continue to see many more features coming over the next few months, (many of which I can’t share publicly here yet), as our architecture is very different from TrainingPeaks, allowing us to be much more nimble and flexible, able to update quickly and effectively. We were acquired in September by the heads of Specialized, so there’s been a big influx of investment into the company, to help us continue to update and innovate expeditiously.
If you have feature requests, I am also keen to hear those. What is most important for you in a platform?
I just did the free 7 day trial just to look around todays plan… WOW that is a lot of data. I am excited to see how the zwift integration works, as that seems to be where I am riding the most these days.
I don’t really have a good answer for you. I feel exactly the same way. I’ve been a premium member since 1998 or so, when it used to be called Trainingbible.com.
I worked at TrainingPeaks about 10 years ago and left for this reason. Even then if felt like the software was stagnating and that they weren’t going to develop their weaknesses, specifically in swim and weight training. I actually emailed them a few years ago hoping I could gain access to their API to develop my own weight training app that sync’d with TP, but was told that they don’t open it up to outside developers (at least not those that don’t have commercial ties to TP). I think they would do well to become a training platform that other developers could interact with, along with removing WKO as a product and moving it, in its entirety, to TrainingPeaks. There’s so much cheap computing power in the cloud these days that I can’t imagine they couldn’t offer a platform that did it all with a reasonable price tag.
Yep, Training Peaks has stagnated and there is no indication it is going to improve any time soon.
Their run workouts sync to garmin sucks – can’t change data screens, it always show average for lap making it impossible to use for long intervals on the run for example.
I don’t understand this comment. The structured interval data screen limitation is a Garmin one, from what I understand by reading Garmin forums. That said, I simply change to whatever other screen I’ve configured. I use structured run workouts every day for everything from strides to 400s/800s 2mile repeats, and 45min tempo intervals.
You can’t really plan swim workout and push it to garmin from TP, you have to recreate it in Garmin Connect anyhow.
Again, this is a Garmin limitation. The have never published the structure swim workout FIT file format. No one other than Garmin creates structured swim FIT files.
Fatique/Fitness/Form chart is probably the only reason why I keep paying $100/year for it, but probably it is time to download your data and migrate somewhere else.
To where, exactly? Your own post lists all the ones that don’t provide equivalent functions. So, as noted, even though TP sucks, its still the best of the worst.
If TP makes your eyes bleed as a UI/UX person, try Today’s plan (sorry, Jim…didn’t like it)…or anything else. As near as I can tell…no one is employing a UI/UX designer, or even getting 10 hours of consulting.
Training peak or trainerroad? I know it works in TP, but I was saying it does not work in TR other than cycling
Whoops you’re right. I was thinking TP.
Hi Coach Vance,
Thanks for the reply. Honestly I have looked at Today’s Plan in about a year. Firstly, I would like something equivalent to the TP Fitness, Fatigue and Form scores. I would also like support for Run Power and something like the Training Peaks Workout Builder so I can send workouts to Stryd or to Garmin automatically. That woudl be a great start because TP is so stale and they haven’t done anything in years to the interface, but its seemingly the only game in town.I am eager to hear if this is currently available or in the pipeline (of what you can share of course.
Thanks.
Have a look at intervals.icu. Really all about the analysis and not the planning, imports automatically only from Strava. But terrific analysis with some unique tools. Not connected except as an active user.
Hi Coach Vance,
Thanks for the reply. Honestly I have looked at Today’s Plan in about a year. Firstly, I would like something equivalent to the TP Fitness, Fatigue and Form scores. I would also like support for Run Power and something like the Training Peaks Workout Builder so I can send workouts to Stryd or to Garmin automatically. That woudl be a great start because TP is so stale and they haven’t done anything in years to the interface, but its seemingly the only game in town.I am eager to hear if this is currently available or in the pipeline (of what you can share of course.
Thanks.
Hello, happy to help.
- Today’s Plan has changed a lot in a year, and will continue to change. You get a free 7 day trial when you register, (no CC needed), so you should go start one.
- It has CTL, ATL and TSB, all located on the calendar by the day if you want to see it there. If you want to see it for the whole season, you can see it on the calendar with the annual planner charts, and even isolate by sport. It’s great to have it available right there on the calendar, so you can see big picture/long-term, at the same time you see the calendar.
- Today’s Plan also syncs directly/automatically with Garmin, just need to connect it in your settings, for workouts to automatically upload to the unit.
- Today’s Plan is the best platform overall for run power analysis, (IMO), and can directly sync from Garmin post-workout for that data, and/or Stryd.
So in short, Today’s Plan can do everything you want, and more. Our YouTube page is a great resource as well: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEdugFFP0eNp54SwUS1yWkg
Let me know if I can help further.
Nobody seem to have mentioned Golden Cheetah, I’ve never used it and dont know anything about it but it usually comes up. Anyone that knows more?