Actual NHC Warning on Hurricane Katrina (must read)

http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/iwszone?Sites=:laz062

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS…PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL…LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE…INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY…A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD…AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS…PETS…AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS…AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING…BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050828/ap_on_re_us/katrina_the_big_one_1&printer=1

Hurricane Could Leave 1 Million Homeless

By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer1 hour, 56 minutes ago

When Hurricane Katrina hits New Orleans on Monday, it could turn one of America’s most charming cities into a vast cesspool tainted with toxic chemicals, human waste and even coffins released by floodwaters from the city’s legendary cemeteries.

Experts have warned for years that the levees and pumps that usually keep New Orleans dry have no chance against a direct hit by a Category 5 storm.

That’s exactly what Katrina was as it churned toward the city. With top winds of 165 mph and the power to lift sea level by as much as 28 feet above normal, the storm threatened an environmental disaster of biblical proportions, one that could leave more than 1 million people homeless.

“All indications are that this is absolutely worst-case scenario,” Ivor van Heerden, deputy director of the Louisiana State University Hurricane Center, said Sunday afternoon.

The center’s latest computer simulations indicate that by Tuesday, vast swaths of New Orleans could be under water up to 30 feet deep. In the French Quarter, the water could reach 20 feet, easily submerging the district’s iconic cast-iron balconies and bars.

Estimates predict that 60 percent to 80 percent of the city’s houses will be destroyed by wind. With the flood damage, most of the people who live in and around New Orleans could be homeless.

“We’re talking about in essence having — in the continental United States — having a refugee camp of a million people,” van Heerden said.

Aside from Hurricane Andrew, which struck Miami in 1992, forecasters have no experience with Category 5 hurricanes hitting densely populated areas.

“Hurricanes rarely sustain such extreme winds for much time. However we see no obvious large-scale effects to cause a substantial weakening the system and it is expected that the hurricane will be of Category 4 or 5 intensity when it reaches the coast,” National Hurricane Center meteorologist Richard Pasch said.

As they raced to put meteorological instruments in Katrina’s path Sunday, wind engineers had little idea what their equipment would record.

“We haven’t seen something this big since we started the program,” said Kurt Gurley, a University of Florida engineering professor. He works for the Florida Coastal Monitoring Program, which is in its seventh year of making detailed measurements of hurricane wind conditions using a set of mobile weather stations.

Experts have warned about New Orleans’ vulnerability for years, chiefly because Louisiana has lost more than a million acres of coastal wetlands in the past seven decades. The vast patchwork of swamps and bayous south of the city serves as a buffer, partially absorbing the surge of water that a hurricane pushes ashore.

Experts have also warned that the ring of high levees around New Orleans, designed to protect the city from floodwaters coming down the Mississippi, will only make things worse in a powerful hurricane. Katrina is expected to push a 28-foot storm surge against the levees. Even if they hold, water will pour over their tops and begin filling the city as if it were a sinking canoe.

After the storm passes, the water will have nowhere to go.

In a few days, van Heerden predicts, emergency management officials are going to be wondering how to handle a giant stagnant pond contaminated with building debris, coffins, sewage and other hazardous materials.

“We’re talking about an incredible environmental disaster,” van Heerden said.

He puts much of the blame for New Orleans’ dire situation on the very levee system that is designed to protect southern Louisiana from Mississippi River floods.

Before the levees were built, the river would top its banks during floods and wash through a maze of bayous and swamps, dropping fine-grained silt that nourished plants and kept the land just above sea level.

The levees “have literally starved our wetlands to death” by directing all of that precious silt out into the Gulf of Mexico, van Heerden said.

It has been 40 years since New Orleans faced a hurricane even comparable to Katrina. In 1965, Hurricane Betsy, a Category 3 storm, submerged some parts of the city to a depth of seven feet.

Since then, the Big Easy has had nothing but near misses. In 1998, Hurricane Georges headed straight for New Orleans, then swerved at the last minute to strike Mississippi and Alabama. Hurricane Lili blew herself out at the mouth of the Mississippi in 2002. And last year’s Hurricane Ivan obligingly curved to the east as it came ashore, barely grazing a grateful city.

What will follow shall be our next greatest challenge.

Incredibly sad for all those people.

The Red Cross is often the first to respond in crisis situations like these. They have already begun carrying out detailed and extensive preparations to save as many lives as possible by opening shelters and staffing emergency hotlines. They are truly extraordinary in their ability to respond to situations like this and to keep a community intact.

They accept monetary donations online at:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp
(sorry, on a Mac - can’t make an active link)

Please keep these people in your thoughts during the storm and in the following weeks and months. This will truly be an event of mass destruction.

I hope that the experts are correct that the Superdome can tolerate these winds since they are using it as the main shelter.

**I hope that the experts are correct that the Superdome can tolerate these winds since they are using it as the main shelter. **

I was wondering about that as I saw the many hundreds of people marching in there for shelter…seems like a gigantic target for wind in my mind. As you say, let’s pray the pundits are correct in their assessment.

It would indeed be an tragedy within a tragedy…

I’ve been through four category 4 hurricanes in my life (good ole’ Texas coast) and couldn’t imagine what a category 5 hurricane could do… God bless those who stay…

Good Lord. This is unbelievable.

“Experts have warned about New Orleans’ vulnerability for years, chiefly because Louisiana has lost more than a million acres of coastal wetlands in the past seven decades. The vast patchwork of swamps and bayous south of the city serves as a buffer, partially absorbing the surge of water that a hurricane pushes ashore.”

It’s amazing to me what humans have done to make things work in their favor and in only a few hours Mother Nature can undo it all. It’s like Nature is saying, “See, you were stupid for building this, for destroying the natural protection I gave you, and for messing with me. And now I’m going to take it all away.”

Incredibly sad for all those people.
Not really…we all take risks in life, if you dont want them from the weather, you get them from the earth (quakes, volcanos), dont like hurricaines? How about blizzards? Ice storms, tornado? Life is risky, the earth is brutal. I saw a special tonight about how the US PROVED they could STEER hurricanes! They COULD actually steer the storm to a less inhabited area…BUT, nature is nature and gets really nasty when it is messed with…moving a hurricane could be just the start of something big…really…what could just something small do? Like, say…bring a few rabbits to Austrailia…

Even if they could steer a storm to some degree, once a storm enters the Gulf the only good (uninhabited) place for it to make landfall is the uninhabited stretch of Texas between Corpus Christi and South Padre Island. The rest of the region is truly a zero sum game- someone’s going to get hurt when it comes in.

I was shocked when I saw that tonight…it was on National Geographic channel…shocking. They fly planes and dump some chemical in the clouds that cause rain…the rain cools the water in that area and can turn the storm (not a 180 or anything…but at 300 miles 1 degree can mean allot to a shore line.

Now…my big question, and I am sure a big one for the people in new Orleans…why not leave the storm surge gates open…they know the surge will go over them…then it will be a lake inside…no way for the water to get out I guess…am I wrong that the whole downtown area has 15’ walls that could keep the water in as well as out (in a smaller storm)?

It’s amazing to me what humans have done to make things work in their favor and in only a few hours Mother Nature can undo it all. It’s like Nature is saying, “See, you were stupid for building this, for destroying the natural protection I gave you, and for messing with me. And now I’m going to take it all away.”

You make an excellent point, the main point which is lost on almost everyone that lives on this planet. Earth was not constructed with humans in mind, or even life for that matter. Swamp Thing said it all too well:

“I have tolerated your species for long enough. Your cruelty and your greed and your insufferable arrogance. You blight the soil and poison the rivers. You raze the vegetation till you cannot even feed your own kind. And then you boast of man’s triumph over nature. Fools, if nature were to shrug or raise an eyebrow… Then you should all be gone.”

Yes, it is a fact of life, but it is sad to think that you are losing your home, all your possessions, the lives of family and friends, schools, historical buildings and landmarks, the graves of loved ones, many jobs, agricultural resources, major transportation routes, and a lifetime’s-worth of work by hundreds of thousands of people to build a beautiful community. Blizzards, ice storms, and tornadoes do not compare to what is going to happen to this area.

It’s funny because you (not you, but “you” meaning people in general) don’t realize how inter-related everything is until something goes wrong. There are a lot of oil rigs in the Gulf, and I’m sure this will affect oil prices. The Mississippi is a major shipping route. We are nearing the cotton harvest. Somewhere down the line, all these things will affect each of us in some way…

BTW, check out http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5f.html. This is NOAA’s explanation of why hurricanes cannot be destroyed. I know you talked about moving them, and I haven’t heard what you were referring to, but this is an interesting report from NOAA.

About 30 miles from me an entire city blew off the face of the earth some months back due to a tornado…though less people than will be hurt in this storm - no less painful for them…

Now the BIG BIG question…what if the Superdome falls? 80,000 dead?

Yes, it is a fact of life, but it is sad to think that you are losing your home, all your possessions, …

I’m not excited about natural disasters or the physical/emotional damage they bring, but I don’t understand why this is sad? Humans have lived in disharmony with nature for the last 25,000 years and on the rare occasion we get tagged by some natural event it becomes a tragedy.

Wouldn’t a better solution be to live low impact lives with the planet as opposed to standing on nature’s throat and hoping we can conquer or control the environment? The destruction of oil rigs can be debated as a positive, not a negative.

Food for thought.

The destruction of oil rigs can be debated as a positive, not a negative.

Food for thought.

Huh? You know that the computer you are using is made from products right from them there rigs…and I had BETTER be able to still get 110 octane so I can turn the turbos up…Oil is my friend…

I love it when tree huggers have plastic coolers keeping their “organic” lunch cool…foam cup anyone?

As I am sitting here typing I am less than 200 miles away from where Katrina is going to hit. With damage to my house still unrepaired from Dennis, and several friends, families, and coworkers still homeless from Ivan–I pray for the folks in NOLA, but am still thankful Katrina is not coming here. That is the dilemma we on the Gulf Coast have found ourselves in many times lately–wishing bad luck on someone else so you don’t have it.

That is the price you pay for living in paradise, but I am beginning to wonder if it is too much. It eats at your gut when you watch over and over for days the inexorable march of the giant storm towards you that seems to have one thing in mind; to destroy you and all your posessions. I won’t sleep much tonight for fear it will turn and come our way.

I know there are a lot of triathletes and runners that come to our area from NOLA to do the SRITRI, the Navarre Beach 1/2 Marathon, the Cap’n Fun Run, etc. They come here to party on the beach and are of the best NOLA “Laissez le bons temps rollez” mindset–but I bet they don’t feel that way right now. I wish them the best, and at last report, it looks like the storm may weaken just a bit.

I just read a report that says a 15 foot tidal bore will most likely form and travel at least 70 miles up the Mississippi. It also said the massive number of fire ants will find places above the tide level and if comes to a head with humans, the ants will win. The oil tanks will rip from the ground and float while releasing their contents, most likely catching on fire. Other tanks with various chemicals including strong acids, chlorine compounds, etc. will break apart, too. Absolutely wicked.