To win your age group you need to pick your best chances. not just do x race every damn year. especially year after year after year. you will find the older you get you pick a year to go in full effort, a year to recover, year to rebuild, year to race for your spot, year to fully commit again as we have busy life’s and to be 100% in every year leads to burn out and serious injures. why are sport has a huge burn out rate after 3 years ( people try to stay peak fitness for 3 years plus all the other)
So you need bottom of your age group years vs top of your age group past 40 years is a swing of 15 min for some (of course outliers are there). Also I can’t race in cold places ( like Lange) so I didn’t have any thoughts about lathi nor would I for Wales ( I think the water is cold), but my friend that was top 5 in Lathi has no goal for nice only kona due to bike course . so we need to choose what’s best for us not what some guy on the internet tells us. just cause we are older or slower then top pros at the time now doesn’t mean we don’t do what best for us, e.g. Knibbs and Saunders chooses for or not for texas.
That said I said the 1% like we talk about the rich ( the 1%) if we are going to break down every statement to defect for Ironman then this will go now where. yes you can get a spot at 5 or 20 %.
DID Ironman send you here? like? why after a bit of a Ironman call out on here, you are here showing up defending and trying to insult “triathletes” with questions. Why not ask questions. Just kind of out of no where???
FOR ME PERSONAL only about me yes!! I want a warm swim , no wetsuit, hilly difficult bike course and a run course that is on road.
THIS IS ME, not others.
So this forum is called 2026 70.3 World’s annoucement Date? and is about when, where this race will be so people with interest ( maybe the 1% or even the 5% even, or if you have a podcast and thought maybe someone might post some info here to use on your podcast ) in this information would come here to discuss, hope, add info they may hear at a city counsel meeting etc.
It really isn’t about politics or where x person will go if x happens ect it’s just these forums always seem to turn into these side quests. Sometimes people complain about the side quest and then bring in a new side quest without adding to the forum.
Okay I will play your game. I have long time suspected the venue will come down to either Nice, Brazil, or Middle East. I feel 2027 could be back in USA, but we will have to wait and see what the all mighty IM decides. I would just like it to be before IMWC instead of after… but that’s just my opinion.
BTW: I had an account for a long time but lost the login for my old accounts. You will see more of me going forward
see I don’t like this info you have presented so I hope you are wrong.
that said
if IMWC if held in Oct in kona 2026 ( both sexes) , I would think the MIDDLE EAST would be in late fall ,but if nice it could be early sept. Brazil ??
I would pass on all 3 of those location for 2026 70.3 worlds ( FOR ME) and then ironman could take my money for a Kona slot race and kona 2026 race.
Interesting that now all the podcasters are posting here too. It’s fine.
If the guys on talking triathlon are reading stop saying IRONMAN BROADCASTS are so boring every damn time you talk about a race and Craig alexander has a boring tone etc etc, YOU SOUND JUST LIKE THEM, I tue you out after 10 minutes but I keep falling for new episodes. !!! LIKE FIX YOUR DAMN HIP AND RUNNING FORM ALREADY , GEEZ!
@Triathletetoth I think you got it wrong. You don’t need to go all in and take down years to recover and whatever. At the end of the day for age groupers this is about lifestyle and managing things. As I say to my colleagues, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL, YOU JUST CAN’T HAVE IT ALL AT ONCE"
So no need to go all in to win your age group etc and then burning the candle out at each end to the point you need a year to recover. That’s just asking for life to fall apart. Rather my approach is go in at less tri effort, less tri focus, and through the year, have periods of more work, less tri, less family, more family, less tri, less work, more tri, less work, less family. I"m at the point that family needs less maintenance, but the thing that actually needs a lot of maintenance is friendships, because eventually you’re not doing tris, you’re not doing work and all you got is family and friends. Ideally tris can be an enabler and the nice thing in adult life, friendships forge through tris that are healthy because work/professional life relationships tend to be unhealthy in the sense there are transactions and power involved. It’s actually what I like about Ironman70.3 worlds. Met a lot of friends thru all of that, because we have the sport in common and no one is forcing us to do it, and they person can be from Uruguay, India, South Africa, Venezuela, USA, Italy. It’s kind of cool and that’s actually why I like going to 70.3 worlds, because of that cross section. I’m going to be mid pack at worlds, its really about getting together with like minded people who balance tri, family, work and they try to have it all (just not at the same time). On that note, on a biz travel trip, and gotta go get dinner with an extended family member! (8K run done this morning, 3300m swim done at lunch too haha…trying to have it all)
Endurance sports makes you weaker every year. I know so many guys that keep doing so many Ironmans and destroying themselves in slow motion literally slower motions.
You need to go stress rest grow repeat not stress stress stress stress .
After an Ironman hard 2 years one to get your spot two to get your worlds effort . You should go back to short and heavy strength lifting as your recovery year without this each 5-10 years you will much further back . Then build off that strength and freshness into another endurance build.
I cant speak about other personally but I have the results and client results that support this as they are faster in there 40-50-60 then they were a decade ago.
Also long slow training get so mentally boring like the pool for another easy swim for 60 min give me 20 x 100 Rest 20 any day over 60 min Ironman swim effort .
Now it’s also a family break to do other things and experience life outside the endurance triathlon bubble.
Why did you say on your pod this discussion about worlds 2026 is about our wife’s ? The only reason we know half your pod is because of your wife’s . Haha
Also you down play how we haven’t even started qualifying yet for this 2026 ( don’t think you get the point this is a lot about planning a 2025 race to get the 2026, before they sell out etc) but then talk about the New Mexico race set for 2026 July , while shouldn’t we know the worlds 2026 even that is about 2 months past the New Mexico race date ?
Anyway enjoy the pod while cutting down a tree so just heard that part the most so don’t quote me if I was not paying full attention
@timbasile dragging that across here, from IM Texas “most of the rumours are that they’re trying to tempt Nice with a 70.3 WC so they can move everything back to Kona.”
Does Nice need to be ‘tempted’? Can’t they just go back to a one day combined (with less than 1500 slots for men, mind: which may impact second decile male amateurs (for whom IMWC 2025 in Nice may be their last IMWC chance)).
They can obviously go back to a one day WC if they want - though I think it’s too difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. Women have had their own day in a WC for a few years now and you’d get major pushback if they reverted to a 1 day WC in Kona. I’d argue that a 2 day WC is better for the health of the sport, but that’s a whole other thread.
I could be wrong but - For Nice, I thought the deal was 3 years, plus an option for 1 more, so the rumours are that they’re supplying goodwill with the city to take up the 4th year as a 70.3WC. Though I’m sure it’s been discussed in this thread already.
I’m sure they can convince themselves this makes sense. And those top athletes that race great will be happy at the exclusivity, and those that do score a roll down will be thrilled and feel like rock stars.
But it’s a huge risk to have your biggest customer group killing themselves and getting turned away, meanwhile, in some races and age groups it will roll pretty deep for the ladies. I can’t really think of a worse business decision than to frustrate and turn away your biggest customer group and be super nice and consoling to the segment that says they aren’t that into you.
Ok in my mind I’m reading this like it’s proposing a 50/50 split. If it’s 75/25 or whatever the sign up ratio is that makes sense. No real issue if they go back to proportional split other than the massive amount of male AG revenue they leave on the table. There must be a better way than cutting their sales in half. They just need to get creative.
This seems likely given the fact that we’re not sure what’s happening with the Nice/Kona split, and don’t have a date for 70.3 WC’s. Not sure if that’s just your reading of the tea leaves or you heard that somewhere, but I’d bet on that outcome.
What’s the answer? Whether it’s 50/50 60/40 66/33 80/20 aren’t they basically always going leave AG male revenue on the table if they go back to a 1 day race?
I would say if they go back to a 1 day championships, it’s cus they are actually saving money instead of having a split championship with 2 venues at less than capacity for making IM the most money. Why have 2 championship venues if all your going to do is have less than 2500 at either venue. Sure it will squeeze the men, but no chance the men suddenly storm off in anger cus they have a harder chance of IMW Q’ing. The percentage who do that would be inconsequential to IM’s overall revenue.
There have been multiple creative ideas. Extend transition out of the pier further into the street and near by areas, scaffolding on the pier (Roth builds a temp stadium just for the finish chute), changing the race start location, expand the pier with federal funding (recent bill has $600 million in grants for construction projects).
To get how many racing in Kona? ~5k or are you suggesting getting closer to 3k-3500? Essentially only doubling the race entry to ~5k solves the problem you are suggesting is a problem because even at 3500 people your still going to be leaving male AG athlete revenue. I don’t think there is the real estate nor the materials to double the current capacity for a single day of racing on that island in the current location. I guess you could bulldoze 1/2 mile of lava and beach to create some massive T area 30 miles up the Queen K, but that would be likely be a hell to the no from the locals (plus stupidly costly).
