I’m curious what everyone can put down in terms of a 10s sprint power.
My FTP is right at 300w, but I can really only put down ~700w during a max, anaerobic effort. I tried chasing a friend down on a ride this morning and I had absolutely no shot and it got me thinking how all these 20’ intervals have helped my tri-specific riding, but wrecked any sort of hope with roadies.
Duration matters in sprints. Peak power is meaningless as it is only one data point. Better to look at 10s average. 900 for ten seconds would be decent, won’t win you a bunch gallop unless you catch people napping. If you can believe some good road racers I’ve talked to: 1300 for five sec for a small guy, 1500 for 8s for a 80kg dude, another said 30sec at over 1000w for lead up and sprint.
Depending on fatigue I can lay down 800 to 1100 for 10s and have had my doors blown off in more sprints I care to remember. Won a couple from very reduced fields though.
Power curve for 2015 tells me 972W for 10s. Off a ~340W FTP. And, as a roadie, I’m almost a pure TTer. Not any sort of legit sprinter.
20’ intervals don’t wreck anything. You need those, whether tri or roadie.
You just need to do more short intervals. A lot of roadies don’t explicitly do very short intervals. You just naturally do them on the course of competitive group rides. Town line sprints, etc.
HOWEVER, I am heavy (115kg) this means that my w/kg is 9.11 / 8.70 … which means i am likely far slower than the other responders. (I am working on dropping the weight… it is just a slow process)
I thought there was a reasonable theory that sprint training helps to increase muscle recruitment for aerobic activities. Being able to utilize additional muscle during lower intensity aerobic activity distributes the workload over more muscle fibers and could reduce overall fatigue. Not sure if there is science out there to back that up.
For all my long aerobic rides I toss in 2-4 15 max sprints. Took me a while to figure out that my sprints were not MAX enough, I was always holding back. Now, I focus on trying to tear my cranks off and do a small bit of yelling.
Bit over 1000w for 10sec, 15.5 w/kg (which can matter) and pretty aero (also matters even on a road bike) off an FTP around 280w. I do ok in sprints with that in races and local “worlds” type rides. I’m a Cat4, although perhaps considered a sandbagging Cat 4 due to not racing enough to upgrade (or racing TTs which don’t count for upgrades).
For n=176 male and female cyclists, ranging from weekend warriors and master fatties to National and/or World Champions in various disciplines, I have an average of 990 +/- 229 W, with a minimum of 517 W and a maximum of 1475 W.
I thought there was a reasonable theory that sprint training helps to increase muscle recruitment for aerobic activities. Being able to utilize additional muscle during lower intensity aerobic activity distributes the workload over more muscle fibers and could reduce overall fatigue. Not sure if there is science out there to back that up.
For all my long aerobic rides I toss in 2-4 15 max sprints. Took me a while to figure out that my sprints were not MAX enough, I was always holding back. Now, I focus on trying to tear my cranks off and do a small bit of yelling.
It would be awesome if one of the slowtwitch coaches could weigh in on this topic.
How beneficial is this type of training?
What kind of sets?
How often?
And when in the training cycle?
Best this season was 1075 for 5 seconds (the absolute peak was 1170). The 10 second average from the same attack was 913, I don’t know offhand if that was the highest for that duration all season. It wasn’t a field sprint, attacked on the back side of a crit course, got a gap and solo’d off to nab a preme.
FWIW I’m a mediocre cat 4 on the road and a newly upgraded 3 on the track (where I suspect I’d have mildly higher numbers if I had a powermeter on that bike).
I’m in the same boat as many of y’all: within the last rolling year, I’ve a few high 800’s for 10s at ~72 kg. So putting a band around 12.2-12.4 w/kg for 10s.
In other words, any sprint I engage in is a sprint I lose.
I’m taking screenshots before sending the powertap in for repairs
Nobody asked about your other durations! This is supposed to be embarrassing for our preselected pathetic sample of “slowtwitchers”!!
My best 10s is somewhere in the high 800s…and I race against guys like Marcotte and Haedo. NRC Crits are like me bringing a nail file to nuclear arms race.