With his recent success, Brad Holmes has earned the right to pick whoever the hell he wants for the Lions. He may draft talent over position more than anyone in the NFL. The Lions probably need DT and CB help so Holmes will probably draft a HOF long snapper or something.

It looks like it might be first 4 picks are QB's and 6 in the first two rounds. I predict 5 of them will be disappointed, at least. And no one knows which 5.

Raiders are mediocre top to bottom, need a QB and O-line most. Too low to get one of the better rated QB's and usually hard to miss on lineman. Maybe they get it right. They will probably miss on a QB in the 2nd round.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Well, considering we have the last pick in the first round unless we trade up, I think they’ll probably take a WR. But then again, maybe Veach pull a surprise. But considering the reason we have the last pick, I’m good.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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We need nothing,

Last year was the end of caring about the draft, Brad showed everyone, they have no clue. I get it its media hype gotta get clicks and make money.

I predict the Lions will do 1 of three things in the first round and I am okay with all.

They will move up, move down or stay where they are. LOL

Enjoy, hope the city comes off well. Might watch the preshow to see how the City comes off. Might watch first pick, to see if the crowd chanting Jared Goff, when Chicago wastes another pick on QB, is loud enough to make the broadcast.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

“They will move up, move down or stay where they are. LOL”

My wife was thinking out loud yesterday as she tends to do pretty much constantly and opined that Russel Wilson will light up the league this year, completely fall apart, or be average and unremarkable. Seems there’s room for two on that limb you’re both venturing out on.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

But I'll Trust Brad, a lot more than Russel Wilson on who will perform their job better.

Brad will Move up , down or Stay (which ever is right).. Russel's performance is a complete crap shoot.

My comment was more the absurdity of all the mock drafts pre and post draft analysis. No one had Lions moves in their mocks and many after wards graded it a horrible draft.. 1 yr later (still to early to know for sure) but they probably had the best draft of the league last year.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Giants fan.

Clearly Danny Dimes is not the answer; nor are the two current back-ups. But, I don't think there will be a QB on the board on #6 and I hope they do not trade up. Agree there is too much uncertainty for any of those QBs. Plus, any top QB pick will be just as prone to injury as current QB as there has been, and will be, no line to protect him.

Since top 4 picks, at least, will likely be QB, and I'll assume Marvin Harrison is off the board before 6, I hope they go OT or edge rusher with that #6 pick.

I've seen some chatter on maybe Bo Nix in round #2 - that would seem like a decent gamble.

Giants are still looking at a sub .500 this year. So, maybe even a trade down to snag another round one pick next year would be wise. Could pay out like the Chicago trade last year and end up with #1 overall pick.

DavHamm wrote:

Enjoy, hope the city comes off well.

Too late ;)
https://www.freep.com/...-lights/73358600007/

I'm gonna agree with you. What we have currently is enough to win it all again. The draft will just add a bit of depth to what we already have.

Old news,, I really doubt that has any impact on the folks who come and none on those who watch on TV.

Google warren Hollywood sign, (warren is a city near detroit) if you want a good laugh.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

I like to look at past mel kiper rankings and compare them to this years. In most drafts all of the top 4 QBs including JJ McCarthy, would be the top 4 picks.

Williams = 97 grade,
Daniels = 94,
May = 93,
McCarthy = 92

In 2023, Bryce young = 96, CJ Stroud = 94
2022 = Kenny picket taken 20th overall with a 90 grade
21 = lawrence - 97 grade, Zach wilson - 93 grade, lance - 92 grade (third overall)
20 = burrow - 94 grade, Tua = 93 grade (5th overall),
19 = Murray - 90 grade, daniel jones - 80 grade taken 6th,

That is a rough top 3. Too early to close the book on them but the last two have pretty much been given up on and Lawrence put up back to back 56.1 QBR's while the team went back to back 9-8.

I was told Lawrence was a generational talent and not a mid-level quarterback.

Oh well, 4 teams are lined up to do exactly this again and hope they get it right.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

It'll be interesting to see how the QB's shake out. Williams seems set in stone at 1. But Daniels and May keep flip-flopping in a lot of mocks. An McCarthy has really shot up the board. Will Penix and Nix make it 6 in the first round? I've seen some commentary that teams are high on Spencer Rattler so maybe a team really reaches for him early on (though I imagine he is a 2nd or 3rd round pick)

It's a good year to need a WR1 with Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze. Lots of rumors that the 49ers could trade Aiyuk rather than sign him to a big extension. That'd be a huge bummer as it was so great this season

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Matt

I think most teams would be ok with a mid level QB even with the #1 pick.

I find it really interesting that justin fields is labelled a "bust" as a #11 pick, but not Lawrence.

Their QBR's track pretty close the first 2 years and last year was 56 - 46 with the advantage to Lawrence. It is very possible QBR gives too much credit to rushing yards when it takes carries away from the running backs. But if it is accurate getting the same production from #11 as #1 seems like a good buy.

With both of them it seems early to give up on them, 3 years when they are at least mediocre and not busted up seems short.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I think JJ McCarthy could drop (and I think he knows it which is why he stayed home). I expect he will be a bust as NFL QB.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Booing Goodell every time he takes the mic never gets old.

Let's get the show started, I'm tired of listening to all the talking heads with a batting average below the Mendoza line when it comes to prognostication.

Windy is popping a Zima right about now - while wearing his Trubisky jersey.

Wearing his Bears Crocs

So far the talking heads are dead on after 4 picks.

From here on is where it gets interesting.

Atlanta what are you thinking?

You beat me to it.

I disagree. Phenix is a good one.

Nix to the Broncos.

Had hoped they would trade the pick for draft capital.

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He is good, but they just signed Cousins to a 4-year 180 mil contract. If Cousins plays 3 more years, Penix will be 27 when he starts.

https://x.com/...MKbkOzpNU_o_bXlnvUlQ

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

“Kirk Cousins is going to be stunned when he wakes up tomorrow morning and reads about this in the newspaper”

The comment section remains undefeated.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

I hear you but Cousins will be 36 when the season starts and is coming off a season ending achillies injury. Probably a good idea to have some insurance.

To be clear, the draft remains a mystery to me. I could be completely wrong.....in fact I probably am.

I understand that, which makes me wonder why they signed Cousins for 4 years at 180 million. A 1-2 year contract that is performance based seems better, but also the QB market is crazy high right now.

Always interesting to look back on drafts 10-15 years later.

Traded up and got our WR.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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Cathy, what do you think the Bills were thinking? Gee golly lets give Patrick one more burner wide out to beat us with next year. So lets trade em spots so they can.

It is a bit of a head scratcher. This is what The Athletic said.

Buffalo Bills — Buffalo brass delivered a head-scratcher as they moved back in the first round after a trade of picks with the Chiefs. Kansas City used that pick to draft the speedy Texas wideout Xavier Worthy. Buffalo needs help at wide receiver, and the Chiefs are the one team Buffalo can never figure out how to beat in the playoffs. So, to pass up on a chance to help themselves, and then to help strengthen a chief adversary could really come back to haunt the Bills. Then, to make matters worse, the Bills turned around and traded out of the 32nd pick, moving back to 33rd. The Panthers, who moved into that spot, used that pick to take South Carolina wide receiver Xavier Legette — another player that really could have helped Buffalo.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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Looks like the D- Shined. They had to close off access to the Draft area as it hit capacity.

Lions make a small move up for the best CB in the Draft, seems like a winning move.

Now if Brad can pull one more 2nd round trick out of his bag of tricks, it will be a another great draft for the Lions.

And we can watch the Bears burn up another 1st round draft pick, and JJ keeps Minnesota just at okay. That should work for him, easy spot to go with a well stacked offense, so he will hang around for a few years as a middle / upper middle QB.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Be interesting to see in a few years who got the best QB pick. With six picks in the top 12 me thinks not all of them may have been a great pick. But you can never quite tell.

Indeed. I saw estimates of 275,000 people. Impressive.

My son headed into town after he was done with work and ended up turning around once he approached downtown because it looked like he wasn't even going to be able to get near it.

I'll wager at least 4 teams will miss. It is such a crapshoot on which QB translates from college to the NFL.

Will any miss as bad as Jamarcus Russel or Ryan Leaf?

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

McCarthy is the story of this QB class for me. Harbaugh says he’s the best QB he’s coached but also has the smallest sample size. Given the QB draft order he has the potential to upstage the majority of his class. I also like that he landed in Cousins’ wake in Minnesota. He has weapons.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

Did I hear a misquote last night on the telecast? I thought the quote was he was the best QB to ever come out of Michigan. That's a rather bold statement. Saying he is the best he ever coached - not as much.

As for Buffalo, they must have had a few WR grouped together and decided to trade back to a round two pick. Save a little money with that rookie contract and still get one of the guys they wanted. plus picking up a few more picks to land even more options at a WR that may actually be able to play at the Pro level. Sure, the Chiefs have a fast WR. But, can he catch, run routes, stay healthy, be a team players, etc.

Reminds me of the 1983 QB draft class. I'm not saying there a 2-3 future HOF-ers in there, but there were 6 QB's taken in the first round in '83 as well, and they had good to great careers.

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Yes.

As a Denver Broncos fan, this sucks. KC now has more pieces to continue their winning.

You don’t know the Chiefs. If there’s any sign that he’s not a team player, he will hear from QB1 and TE1 and get a very quick attitude change.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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Rich Eisen shares your confusion on the pick.

I do know the WR first-round draft pick my Giants traded to your Chiefs. The guy who lined up offsides and cost you a win. So, they don't all get with the program. ;) But, maybe this year will be different for him.

And if they don’t get with “the program “ they sit the bench and collect their ring

I’ve been big on McCarthy for awhile and a lot of people disagree.

I think looking back on this draft in a decade it could very well be that he was one of, or the best.

Well, they haven't actually had the ring ceremony yet so he'd better hope he gets one.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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Its a different time.

2 wont be starting Day 1 so they have a shot to develop and learn, I think the other 4 will start? (not sure).

Seems most think JJ will be a decent avg slightly above avg QB in the NFL, and walks into a nice offense and can sit back a few weeks and watch things for a few weeks.

I wont be surprised if 3 wash out, 2 are servicable and 1 becomes a top 5 qb.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

The big question is will KT be a Chief this year or traded?

at least the last 2 QB's taken were taken before they should have been, but panic buying set in.

I think to many teams are living in the get a stud young qb on rookie deal and thats the ticket to the SB, folks are reaching for QB's.

I am glad, the draft picks went offense early, let the Defenseman drop which helped the Lions get a steal.

I have not seen anyone with a QB measure that has picked with any accuracy how a QB turns out in the pro's. I think there are to many variables, how fast are they pushed into service, what kind of O line and receivers does the team have. QB coach, Offensive Coordinator philosophy, I think some of the QB busts, could have had good careers had they landed elsewhere.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Boy, I have no idea. I think if we could pick somebody up reliable on the WR free agent market, then they would release him. But if they end up keeping him, they have to decide on his fifth year option, which I would not sign. If they keep him and don’t take the fifth year option, then he’s pretty cheap at about $2 million. And we haven’t even gotten into the injury issues.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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Can you really get a steal in the 1st round? I mean all those guys have been poked/proded 3 ways to Sunday unlike your 5th or 6th round draft pick.

OK, I have never been a Nick Saban fan, but I think he’s doing a good job on the draft coverage.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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He is doing a great job. It seems like he recruited every one of these guys. Been to their house, knows their family, knows their strengths/weakness.

We got arguably the two best corners in the draft.

Ha ha!

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clm
Nashville, TN
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We sure needed them!!!

And a Trotter!!!

#FlyEagles#Fly

Looks like the Cowgirls are focusing on linemen, to protect Dak on one side & to try to stop Saquon on the other

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Overall I am extremely happy with the draft haul. We need offense, and it starts with the line.



Najee and Jaylen running behind these guys, and last year's additions of Seumalo, Daniels, Jones, will be fun to watch.

Panthers legend and future HOFer Luke Keukley raved about the (ILB) Wilson pick.

Cue the false hope!

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

We didn't grab him but we did snag one of his money makers in the third round.

Reminds me of another ex-Wolverine QB's favorite targets up in New England.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W