Your indulgence: Yet another fit critique [video]

VIDEO: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4961087507574148463

I’m asking for your indulgence in yet another fit critique post. We’re going down to one income and I can’t justify a $120 pro fit while I’m student teaching. So I’m coming to you.

I need help critiquing my fit. I don’t train with others and I’ve only ridden 2 years so my learning opportunities and experience are very limited.

So, if you have 1-3 minutes, take a look at this video I threw together. There’s a 3 angles, some in slow motion, to help you see.

Obviously I didn’t go shirtless because I’m buff. I thought it would help when critiquing my fit.

Here’s some pertinent data (measurements taken per Competitive Cyclist instructions)

Inseam 34 in
Trunk 25 in
Forearm 14 in
Arm 26.75 in
Thigh 24.5 in
Lower Leg 22.25 in
Sternal Notch 58.5 in
Total Body Height 70.5 in
Weight: 168lbs

Here’s what the calculator kicked out. In parentheses is what I have right now.
Seat tube range c-c 55.9 - 56.4
Seat tube range c-t 57.7 - 58.2
Top tube length 55.1 - 55.5 (56)
Stem Length 11.5 - 12.1 (9.0)
BB-Saddle Position 76.7 - 78.7 (76)
Saddle-Handlebar 54.4 - 55.0 (unk)
Saddle Setback 6.0 - 6.4 (6.3)
Seatpost Type NON-SETBACK
Crank: No data (175)

I was having a bit of front knee pain although it’s subsiding now that I’ve incorporated this initial fit data (saddle was very low). After 2 hours I’m pretty sore. I know it’s a somewhat aggressive position. I bought the bike used and the head tube is chopped so I’m kinda’ stuck. The short stem was my bad: my old 11cm didn’t seem right- I felt too stretched out. But now my front hub isn’t “hidden” by the handlebars.

I really don’t know what the hell I’m doing. What’s new?

Thanks very much for your time,
Brian

Your fit looks fine. You do need to work on your spin though… you’re shaking a lot as you ride. More one legged drills, high cadence work, and some core work will help. Having a fixie to ride would be useful too. (=

Being sore is something you almost have to get used to… A good pair of cycling shorts, and a better seat might help.

your toes are pointed down at BDC and your hips are rocking.

wanna guess what I would tell you next?

g

Ooh, ooh, pick me! PICK ME!!! (raising hand…) HIS SEAT IS TOO HIGH!!!

That’s not an aggressive position…

I would second the pedal stroke. Looks very choppy (and no it’s not from the video connection)

I would actually say your seast can come up just a tad bit more.

Your cleat position, although hard to tell from the video looks a bit awkward. Looks very forward on the ball of your foot.

Other then that the rest looks fine. You reach seems appropriate.

I would actually say your seast can come up just a tad bit more.

Do you not notice that he is rocking from side to side? His seat DEFINITELY needs to come down…

Yeah, did notice that, but looking at his extension it doesn’t look like he is any where close to being fully extended. I think the rocking is due to poor mechanics then a high seat.

…but looking at his extension it doesn’t look like he is any where close to being fully extended…

@ the knee…

but what about his hip and ankle?

he is REACHING with his feet and hips. perhaps because he lacks knee flexibility, perhaps because it is natural to use the full mechanism to try to compensate. but either way, way to high.

which would also help solve the almost locked elbows as well :smiley: (sympathetic benefits! - assuming he leave the bars alone)

g

This is definitely too much extension:
http://i12.tinypic.com/4v87gbc.gif
Even accounting for the fact that it was a blurry video and the skeletal points are not marked so there is a good degree of error in my little “angle,” that is still much too obtuse…

Jordan… remember… don’t feed the trolls :wink:

Yeah, but I don’t think it’s from his seat being too high. More so that his seat is too far back… Draw a line straight up from the BB and that seat is way too far back.

Yeah, but I don’t think it’s from his seat being too high. More so that his seat is too far back… Draw a line straight up from the BB and that seat is way too far back.
Why don’t you take this oportunity to learn something?

heh, ok big guy. I’ll just shut my little trap cause Paulo has spoken.

Evidently anyone who has an opinion that doesn’t comply with yours is a troll huh?

…and that seat is way too far back.

for what?

g

I am out of this… sorry n/m

I’ll leave my opinions to myself.

sorry if I offended. just curious why you think his saddle is to far back :smiley:

g

no but if you’re gonna give a guy bad advice then be prepared to get bashed

let’s see - three coaches all say the same thing and then you have a guy who lists “triathlon dumbass” as an interest saying the opposite…hmmm
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No, man you didn’t offend. I just don’t need to take any shit from the likes of Paula from expressing an opinion.

Holy sh!t. I didn’t expect to wake up to 17 responses.

Thanks…

1: I noticed the rocking as well. Can I blame it on not tightening the rear wheel into the trainer (probably not). But my hips DO seem to rock a bit. I was surprised.

2: I marked my joints with black marker. It was lost in compression. I’ll make them bigger next time.

3: I’ve been working on pedaling technique. Good to know I still need to drill more.

4: Despite 1-2 hours of yoga weekly, it’s still that obvious I have terribly stiff hamstrings. Bummer.

5: I was surprised at the saddle setback as well when I did it. Right now I’m just blindly following the fit calculator.

6: I don’t have a clue about cleat placement. I thought I had them under the ball of my foot. You can see I have a recreational/touring shoe for the time being.

Again, you all are providing valuable information that, at this point, I just can’t get elsewhere. Keep it comin’!

Come to Ohio, beer’s on me!

Cheers,
Brian

RAPPSTAR:

Since I’m sure you have nothing better to do with your life, could you draw a more appropriate angle over my photo- how you think it should look?

I understand “too obtuse” (I spend most my mental life in that state) but I don’t have a frame of reference for how a more acute angle would look.

OR, if you happen to have a photo of a better position with the angle overlay, that would help.

Many thanks,
Brian