You gotta wonder: medication and firepower

refresh my memory: where exactly was my “hate speech”?

Classic. It is so ingrained you can’t even see it.

classic.

an answer that can only come from the puzzle palace.

a la virginia tech, when was the last time that a mentally ill person used his person car to intentionally kill 30+ people at one time?

happened in cincinnati just a couple of years ago, a mad man drove into a crowd at a downtown festival and killed many people. we also had a madman drunk, who killed a couple of young men as they were leaving the bengals stadium after having been at a football game.

personally, i consider 1 in 8 to be sociopathic. but i do not believe this is any reason for the government to determine we should have no right to bear arms.

personally, i consider 1 in 8 to be sociopathic. but i do not believe this is any reason for the government to determine we should have no right to bear arms.

not sure of your sociopath numbers, but about the “right to bear arms”, there is big lethality spread between a single shot gun (i.e., must re-load to fire second shot), to a revolver, to a modern automatic handgun, to a hunting rifle, to a shotgun, to any gun with 30-round magazine, to a rapid-fire hand-held machine gun, to a tripod-mounted machine gun, to a RPG launcher, to a shoulder-fired missile launcher.

all of these are clearly “arms.”

but i find the most interesting discussion as to where ‘the line is drawn’ in this spectrum: which of these arms are reasonable for the average healthy (or mentally compromised) american to buy and own? if we have the right to bear arms, it seems the line could be drawn anywhere on the spectrum, and there are good arguments both for and against drawing the line at nearly any spot.

GregX, do you wake up each day and try to find what is wrong with the world? I suggest you wake up tomorrow and attempt to look at each aspect of your day as either a gift or a challenge. I’m truly glad I do not have such a pessimistic view of the world…

GregX, do you wake up each day and try to find what is wrong with the world? I suggest you wake up tomorrow and attempt to look at each aspect of your day as either a gift or a challenge.

i must say, i really don’t get it.

i mean, do you wake up and say,

“wow, a mentally unstable guy that stopped taking his medication went out and got some serious guns and snuffed out a bunch of innocent lives ! how fabulous! wow, what a wonderful gift ! what a great way to publicize the dreadful neglect of the mentally ill in the u.s. ! or, wow, we do have a lot people in this country, what a great method of population control !”

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so, what exactly is it that you see positive about this NIU shooting? please educate me.

its not really specific to this thread, rather you seem to have a very negative outlook on life in general.

“Does it matter that the killing is intentional? Or that 30 people, as opposed to 4 our 6, die 'at one time”? Why? "
It’s not the death that matters it’s how the person died. The complete bullshit from the gun control people that care only abut human life is mind boggling. They will never tell you that it’s ok for thousands to die every year on our roads and highways because they like having a car. I will…

I believe that it is acceptable for people to die in the risky business of owning and operating an automobile because I believe that a highly mobile society is important.

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Interesting thought. It seems likely that we will have the technology to have cars that drive themselves in the near future. Automatic parallel parking is out there on some luxury model now, and adaptive (slows you down if you get too close) cruise control is very close to market. With these advances, do we abdicate our control? It seems to be the crux of where we’re at as a country- we want safety and security, but they come with the price tag of giving up some level of control. How much control are we as a society willing to give up?

I’ve been thinking about this, and the phrase “freedom isn’t free” never rang truer. It doesn’t just mean a cost of lives from a war in a foreign land. The cost of freedom is assuming some level of risk! It also means that some will fail in life, and some people will meet an untimely end. THE BIGGEST COST OF FREEDOM IS HAVING SOME RESPONSIBILITY AND COMMITMENT TO SOCIETY. I WOULD A MILLION TIMES RATHER COMPORT MYSELF IN AN ACCEPTABLE MANNER OF MY OWN FREE WILL THAN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE MANDATE I DO IT! The end result is the same, but the path there makes all the difference.

its not really specific to this thread, rather you seem to have a very negative outlook on life in general.

Got to agree, I’m a short timer, but other GregX posts I can remember include, America sucks, stock market is plummeting, we’ve killed the environment and(our) life on earth will soon end, and that’s just off the top of my head. What I am wondering is, if a dem gets in, will there be a role reversal, with GregX’s world suddenly cheery, and someone here from the republican side being our new harbinger of doom and gloom.

very interesting.

well, read this little tidbit on what may be ahead of us, and it’ll cheer you right up …

I have seen a friend get bad results with meds. , This guy was Bi-polar either joking /alive /animated or depressed /sleepy / bored - no real problem issues . The doctor prescribed some meds. " to keep him on an even keel " , fine no highs or lows just a medium level zombie .
It worked for a few months - till he ran out of the happy pills and had 2 hours of rage / anger about nothing . He wanted to slap his girlfriend and throw things , this was all new to us - as we have both known him 10 -15 yrs .

We are a gun culture , TV for decades has shoot-em-ups on in reruns its not the guns its the mentality . The whole angry US attitude " we are getting screwed by the government - police - IRS - DMV - Social security " . The Europeans that survived the famines - wars - religious persecution have lost the fire to be as angry .
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The Gun manufactures have a smaller lobby than say *** automotive and distillers or we would see 20 minute reports of car accidents and drunk drivers killing kids and families that were “just minding their own damn business” .

Sure a good nut case can kill 20 -30 innocent people , hospitals - step ladders - pools - heat waves - get their share of the innocent .No waiting period on ladders and pools.