I’m still waiting for someone to incorporate ALL the “aero” elements of the various TT frames out there, but this is the closest I’ve seen so far… Rear-wheel flared cutout “raised” top tube to improve air-flow off the stem Front wheel cutout
Hmmm, I don’t know but I think it might be really ugly. I’ll get back to you.
but you could drive a truck between each of the wheels and their corresponding frame parts. i think it’s more than features, it’s also execution. if the bike had rear entry dropouts, as most of the best aero tri bikes have, that would fix the rear wheel gap. then there is the width and shape of these tubes. what are their aspects and are their minor diameters <30mm?
one more thing in the good column: it seems there is a two-position post.
definitely pimp…
would be nice if somone would make a totally all out aero frame without regard to UCI rules, strictly for tri!
True, no horiz. dropouts, bad spacing, really a typical European take on a TT bike.
It’s this lack of attention to details that turns me off of European TT bikes in general…often too much style over substance.
I would think the gap between the front wheel and the frame will act more like a wall to the air thats hitting it.
reminds me of the Tango from a couple of years back. Perhaps they were just ahead of their time?
I worked with Wilier very directly on this frame and their request was to build something new and fast, with not much regards for the U.C.I. but to look after the Triathlon market. There were many windtunnel hours done on this, I specifically did not want horizontal drop outs and I desined the seat tube so that the rear airgap will not effect wheel performance regardless of the wheel style. There are several ways to make a frame fast without having the tire crammed next to the seat tube. The down tube is 27mm X 80+, the downtube shape was very crefully sculpted to not cause air compression off the front wheel. Air management around the rider and specifically the riders legs, was a very high goal, the wake flow management off the rear of the bike will make drafting on this bike no fun. When you have a chance to see the real bike, you will notice all the details, just the rear seat stays were a very complex shape. It uses a 78* seat angle and then uses a two position post to have available a little more rearward seat angle, making the 5cm seat setback requires some effort. Every tube has a very complex shape, not just some random teardrop. Wilier is going to make a serious effort in the U.S. Tri market and this is their start.
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To me it just looks ugly, the paint job doesn’t help either. - My two c.
Ugly… This bike has style… panache… in a world of me too’s this is a beauty. It seems to be well backed on the science as well. It would be nice to see this rather than another P3 with a 3" stack and a 21 degree stem pointed upward to make it fit the middle aged tri-star who wants to be Zabrinskie or Cancellara.
Ugly… This bike has style… panache… in a world of me too’s this is a beauty. It seems to be well backed on the science as well. It would be nice to see this rather than another P3 with a 3" stack and a 21 degree stem pointed upward to make it fit the middle aged tri-star who wants to be Zabrinskie or Cancellara.
Funny, given the Cobb backing, and the fact that it does indeed incorporate so many of the latest subtle improvements, I think it may make a big splash. First thing I thoght was the huge drop would definitely draw the eye of the tri crowd...I mean, Bjorn will be saying "damn, that guy's got a lot of drop". :)
That was the first thing I noticed…dang, that is some serious drop on that bike…my back hurts just looking at it!
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thanks for the input.
i’m guessing they’re mostly looking for your opinion on aerodynamics and not paint, but could you maybe suggest to them that you don’t need to put the brand name on every tube?
Take a close look at the rear saddle/bottle holder.
John,
Thanks for posting. I saw this and wanted to say something, but figured I couldn't explain it as well as I should.
It really cracks me up that people think there is 1 fast design for a tri-bike. I'm kinda torn, b/c I work for Wilier-USA, so I want the bike to sell, but I also am racing on this bike next year, and am kinda looking forward to having something unique, and fast, that not everyone else has.
I can totally respect not liking the look, but if you look at Wilier bikes close up, and ride them, I think you might feel different. I personally love the look, but again, just my opinion.
I guess I just don't see the need for everything that's not your favorite bike being shit, and having to put it down. I would ride a Cobb designed bike against anything out there now, but I still think Cervelo, Kuota, Felt, make great bikes as well. I ride Blackwell's, but it doesn't mean that I think Zipp and Hed suck.
Take a close look at the rear saddle/bottle holder.
Yeah, that’s the new Selle Italia Optima. The saddle has a built-in bottle cage. Too bad it is expected to cost $500.
Too bad it doesn’t have horizontal dropouts so that the back wheel can hit the back brake bridge like some frames out there 
I like it, it’s different and it seems the evolution from the new Specialized Transition.
where do you fit a bento box there??? 
The top tube and seat tube remind me of the Specialized transition, the seat and chain stays remind me of a Corima VIF, the down tube has a Felt DA feel to it. I’m surprised the front brake is exposed - looks like there is room to mount it on the back of the fork.
I’m not wild about the paint and the logo overload, but at least it doesn’t look like every other bike out there (eg: P2C, QR Lucero, the new Kouta, the Plasma, the new Jamis, etc.).
The bike looks great and I have got to have one! I know the bike will light also.