Wildflower Opinions

I went to cheer on my buddy and spectate. I had a great time, more fun than I have had racing long course there. I have never stayed for the Oly, but it looks like having 4,000 people on that course at once is just going to be one long line of folks. To many for that course (or any course).

Anyone that raced and made it to Nasty grade before 1:30, I was up there cheering with my blow up doll in my cutoff jean shorts and stained tank top with my straw hat. I rang a cow bell and cheered folks on. I got lots of smiles from just about everyone.

I met most of the pros taht finished in the top 10 and they were are very friendly. Normann was great to talk to, he had some really funny comments about my blow up wife. Great guy and strong rider.

The volunteers were great, I was out on the bike course about 25 minutes ahead of the pros. All the volunteers “sprung into action” when they saw me coming. Good training for me for AIT.

Someone from slowtwich reconized me, who are you :slight_smile:

I got sunburned cheering folks on, it was a blast though.

My whole weekened was a comedy of errors. Friday night friends call us from the campsite and tell us that they are serious this year…nobody gets into the park on Saturday between 8:30 am and 3:30 pm…checked the website and there it was in big red bold letters.

Nothing to do but pack the car, grab a few hours sleep, and leave at 3;30am. The wife wasn’t happy. We get there and set up camp next to a 5 foot long rattlesnake and a wild pig. Try to sleep, but couldn’t.

We were both doing the short course and decided after registration to set up the lawn furniture and watch the long course run by the campsite. I was in the John when the lead guy came by, but the dude in 2nd was hauling and I guess that was Lessing. The lead woman had a huge lead and wasn’t going to be caught. I was surprised that most of the Pros were running the tangents and cutting the corners but some of them ran on the right of the course on the yellow arrows which must have added a couple of hundred yards over the 13 miles…I told a couple of guys going by to cut because everyone else was,

Went to bed at 7:30pm with the earplugs in and slept a good 10 hours…except for a brief peek out the tent door at 8:00pm to see the streakers go by…we dozed off listening to the incessant roars coming from the TNT camp over the hill.

Got up early and cooked pancakes and set off for the transition. By 8am it was getting warm so we knew we weren;t going to get the nice Saturday conditions. I set my crap up and went off for a warmup run…when I got back some idiot had spilled gatorade allover by stuff…sticky shoes, gloves, socks…the works.

The swim went OK…lined up at the back of my wave since I’m a lousy swimmer…it tok me quite a while to get any rhythm. My HR was through the roof for the first 10 minutes and I was breathing every stroke, but after that I settled down. I did get my goggles kicked or pulled (I dunno which) off my face making the first turn which scared the crap out of me.

Made my first rookie mistake by not surveying the shore before getting in and picking targets to swim to. All I could see was boiling water, arms legs and foam. I hit the buoys pretty well on the way out but was all over the place on the way back…I think I swam about 1.25 miles. Got out in about 29 minutes which was a little slower than I’d hoped for.

Got to T1 and put on socks and shoes and mounted bike…something wasn’t right…hmmmmm…running shoes…got off bike and changed shoes. My bike was racked right by the swim exit so I had to run about 100 yards in cycling shoes…perhaps I should have kept the running shoes on. My first transition time was nearly 4 minutes I think which wasn’t in the plans…already 5 minutes behind schedule.

I hammered up Lynch and passed about 100 people…Just after the top 2 big freakin deer shot across the road right in front of me and another guy…he had to slam on the brakes to miss them. We ended up riding most of the course within eyeshot of eachother…bronze Felt guy???..I found myself passing gobs of people on the climbs and having them all coast by my in the bars on the downhills and flats while I pedalled furiously not to lose too much ground on my very unaero roadbike position. I had one more mishap on the bike going for a little off road excursion a few miles in while making that turn by the long course aid station after the big meadow…I was having a cleat issue and while looking down at my feet the corner kinda snook up on my and I went cross country for a little bit but no harm no foul.

Bike split was a little faster than I had planned on given I run more miles a week than I ride. Again T2 involved a long run in bike shoes before getting out on the run. I guess I should have tried doing at least one brick in the last 9 months just to see what it feels like…I couldn’t get my legs moving at all. I was also feeling a bit sick…bleachy water and very strong mix Gatorade don’t go well together…I upchucked a couple of miles in and began to feel better immediately. After the top of the big climb I began to open the legs a little but alomst as soon as you get motoring you’re at the top of Lynch and the race is pretty much over at that point.

My run split was about 4 minutes off what I’d hoped for but it was 2nd in my agegroup so I guess I wasn’t the only one having problems. I found it a little strange running solo and passing people the whole way…I’m used to running in a pack and racing guys not picking people off.

Oveall I missed my target time by 6 minutes and was about 30th in my AG

…most of the time was lost in transition and my slow run…due to my lack of biking miles I think. If I do another one I think I have to get a lot faster on the swim…you can’t spot people 10 minutes out of the water and hope to catch them on the run…ain’t gonna happen. I also need to get me some aerobars…guys were opening up 50 yard gaps on me just by dropping into the bars and coasting while I pedalled like a maniac…a 50 yard gap on the run takes a helluva lot of work to open up.

The missus had a good race which got me out of the doghouse for making her get out of bed at 3am Satuday for the drive down.

The weekend itself was definitely a lot more muted than the last time I was there as a spectator. Just didn’t have that Woodstock feel this time. The organization was very good…only to be expected for the steep entry fee. But like others have said the Oly bike course was freakin crowded. I had to ride most of the way on the left side of the lane just to pass people and when the P3s and Blades came buzzing by me on the right guys were hitting the road reflectors on the double yellow sometimes at pretty high speeds…didn’t see any wrecks though.

The comedic highlight was definitely the RD’s excellent Gaylord Focker impersonation before the start of the Oly race…“Oh, dear God, thank you, you are such a good god to us. A kind and gentle and accommodating god, and we thank you oh sweet, sweet lord of hosts for the lovely day you have so aptly given us this day, and each day, by day, day by day, by day oh dear lord three things we pray to love thee more dearly, to see thee more clearly, to follow thee more nearly, day, by day, by day. Amen.”

That was you!

Dude that was some funny shit! Derssing up a blow up sex doll and standing by the side of the road cheering. I was the guy in on the orange QR with the TSR kit that said, “there she is, I was looking for her all night”. Not much could make me laugh on nasty grade but that did.

Dave

Sorry we didn’t get to meet!

I’m surprised that TNT didn’t go last as that has been the case in prior years. And yes, the field is much too large for that bike course.

clm

~This~ made me laugh!

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the deer story is crazy. I raced LC on saturday and the same thing happened but a little different ending. We must have spooked two deer right at the exit of the campground. They both take off in full sprint (35mph!) and the lead dear starts looking over for the gap that only a wild animal that wants to get to the other side does. I started calling out to the rider right in front of me that he’s coming over so I checked up on the brakes just a tad. We’ll the deer see’s his opening and makes a hard cut to go for it. The deer’s coming at us perpendicular to the road and it’s going to be SUPER close (he missed the rider by less than a foot!) As soon as his hind hoofs hit the asphault, he loses the back end and does this wierd spin / flip and totally wipes out. Meanwhile, the second deer is thinking that now it’s crucial to get to the other side and keeps eyeing for a gap to join his friend. This one turns out to be a little more patient and ends up sprinting at 30mph for 2 miles or so until he completely blew up and stopped all of a sudden mouth open.

Must have been so fun for these two that they waited to do the same on the SC on saturday - E

And such is the trend, out-of-staters enjoying the trip while in-staters stay away.

Can’t say I agree w/ you. Check the participant list: ~85-90% Californian. I didn’t go this year but have been a few times. Yes, the camping fees are ridiculous and there are some logistical issues(much worse at Vineman if you ask me), but it’s still a great race. No, it’s not as good as it used to be, but it’s still better than the vast majority of races out there.

I’m going to put a full report up on my own website and link to it in a few days, but just to balance out some of the negativity (which is totally understandable. Everything about this race is hard and often annoying), for me, this race is something I just HAVE to master. It’s kicked my ass so hard that doing well on that course means as much as qualifying for Hawaii. Not many non-IM races burn you right down to your core, but takes everything out of you, and then keeps taking. I love it. I hate it. I’ll never be back. And I know without a doubt I’ll be lined up at the start next year.

I cannot help but notice that some of the positive comments come from first timers. My dissapointment comes from seeing the atmosphere of years past and comparing it to this year. It was not about the nudity in the past as I did it the year that it rained and it was too cold for anybody to be naked, but it was just more fun ( I thought) with more students in there.

I had forgotten one thing, I did the long course, about mile 38 of the bike this pack and I mean pack of people went by me. It was blatantly obvious how they were drafting, so bunched up about 2 or 3 abreast and all right on top of each other. I counted at least 13 of them including the guy with the GGTC uniform and it was so obvious that I had to say something, I called them out but they didn’t say shit just kept on riding. It was disgusting as to how obvious it was and how many people were involved. I only saw one draft marshalll on the whole ride.

This was the first time in 7 years I didn’t go to Wildflower and only due to the fact I raced IMAZ, I’m not as studly as some. :slight_smile: In any event, you can guarantee I will go again next year and the year after that and so on…:smiley: I love WF with or without the drunken kids. The area is beautiful, the course is challenging and hanging out with my friends is just the icing on the cake! Oh and I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA!! :smiley: WF was my first half and I’ve always swore that I will continue to do this race even when I no longer do any others!! LONG LIVE THE FLOWER!! :slight_smile:

One last thing…the Oly run course is short…that ain’t no 10K.

I think that it is divine intervention that more people don’t get killed in that Oly race. :wink:

Amen.

If Kerri is there, I’m there. Not necessarily racing though. :wink:

I think that it is divine intervention that more people don’t get killed in that Oly race. :wink:
THAT is why there’s a prayer before the start…

Amen
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I did the half on Saturday and my wife did the Olympic on Sunday. I think both races were among the best organized and most scenic races I’ve ever done. The campsite was more mellow than I expected but actually perfect— On Saturday night after the race my friends and I “partied like rock stars” in the triathlete manner— Had about three beers each, talked about the race for about four hours, watched pulp fiction on the TV in their RV, and crashed by 11:00 PM. We did get a kick of watching the streakers run through Saturday evening, I saw the famous mile 12 boobs, and my wife was grossed out by two dudes in thongs in her race, so it was pretty wild by the standards of most races.

It is early in the season for me, so I am slow and fat and didn’t have my ideal performance, but it was an amazing course and I loved it despite never finding a race rhythm. No-one I talked to at the race witnessed any drafting, although I agree there should have been more draft marshals.

I never saw it in the old days, so don’t know what we missed, but it was a hell of a race.

-Marc

Let me just add, I will always race the long course. I find the short course scary with all those billions of people! :slight_smile:

"Anyone that raced and made it to Nasty grade before 1:30, I was up there cheering with my blow up doll in my cutoff jean shorts and stained tank top with my straw hat. I rang a cow bell and cheered folks on. I got lots of smiles from just about everyone. "

You are a SUPERSTAR! NO, You are a ROCK STAR!!! NO, YOU ARE A PORNSTAR!!!

I was struggling up Nasty grade when I looked up at this weird sight - a guy with a cowbell, holding a dressed up blow-up doll (with a goatee?) We spoke for a second and I thanked you for your help getting up the hill. Thank you again, you made me smile. Who’s dress is that by the way?

There was also a very helpful woman 50 yards past you with a blowhorn talking us up. Thank you to her whoever she was.

I thought this was the best of my 5 Wildflower experiences. It takes amazing organization to pull this out and I think that everyone should drop a thank you note to the RD for his efforts. It is impossible to get 100% of the things perfect. Waaaaa, the water tasted bad, waaaaa! I liked the fact that there were not as many drunk stupin cow-poly students there. The ones that were there were great and I thank them for their support. The ones who were not there were the obnoxious drunk disruptive ones. Who needs ya.

Wildflower is a great race and should be supported.

Andrew

I predict that the heyday of Wildflower is over. Yes, it has (thankfully) Jumped the Shark.

Race organizers have exploited the free college volunteers and Ironman slots to pad their profits. They foisted off poor services and minimal investment in participants as an excuse for a “Woodstock” atmosphere.

Enough!

Now, without beer to lubricate the coeds and no Kona slots for top performers, the race has certainly lost its luster.

Good riddance.