I agree that we no more Bushes or Clintons in office.
this is what my husband says! personally, i just feel the republicans are unimpressive.
Sometimes I’m typing and I forget to put words into the sentence and then when someone quotes me, I feel like an idiot.
Hilary is hot, as long as we’re talking Hilary Swank. Couple Oscars, what’s not to like?
Clinton was slimy, but he was charasmatic. He did some bad shit, but people liked him anyways and that is why he had some decent popularity at the end of his term. I also don’t think that Bill is pulling Hillary’s campaign down. Actually, I think the only reason why they are still married is that she knows that Bill can help her get into the White House. I bet that if she is elected and serves 8 years, once she is done, their marriage is over.
I do agree that this will probably be a very interesting election in the next 18 months with no one a shoe in. Kind of like this year’s Tour de France!
Oh, I know that I could be stepping on your toes and possibly flat out insulting you with this comment, but I have to say it. Hopefully that’ll take away the sting a bit.
How much of your like for Hillary is coming from the fact that you are a woman yourself and you possibly like strong women in power?
Oh, I know that I could be stepping on your toes and possibly flat out insulting you with this comment, but I have to say it. Hopefully that’ll take away the sting a bit.
How much of your like for Obama is coming from the fact that he is black and you like the idea of electing a black man in power? Do you think anyone would have ever heard of him if he were white? Would you be willing to throw the lack of experience out the window then too?
Hey, if you are going to suggest someone is thinking in sexist terms, we might as well ask if you are thinking in racial terms.
I don’t much like the idea that he is always the least knowledgable when he sits in a room with advisors.
I’m not sure what you meant by this but the presidency is pretty much a management job. Any decent manager will try to find people that are better than him/her to answer questions so they can make a good decision. As president of the US you are basically CEO of the largest corporation in the world. Although I’d expect that CEO to be intelligent I would rarely, if ever, expect them to be the brightest and or most intelligent on a subject that is being discussed.
~Matt
I guess you think the purpose of a group of presidential advisors, or corporate advisors for that matter, is to pitch in for the team for the common good and take one for the gipper when necessary rather than to posture to take advantage of any situation for one’s own benefit and insure that any blame falls elsewhere.
I was never a Bill Clinton fan, but when he was in the room, he was pretty much the brightest bulb burning even when running on three cylinders instead of eight.
You can dislike Bush as you like, but he is right when he said he is the decider. No one else in the room is, nor will anyone else take ultimate responsibility.
If you want a Reagan analogy instead, he once commented that no easy problems get to his desk. The easy ones are all disposed of at a lower level.
As young, bright and capable as he was, the presidency nearly killed Bill Clinton, and it chewed him up and has left him a physical wreck. If you think Obama is up to the task, that he has proven the toughness necessary to withstand the rigors of office by dint of his four years in the IL State Senate, never having made the simplest executive decision in his entire life, then God bless you.
But . . . but . . . but, Lincoln!
Your right. Is there a President degree and internship program somewhere? It a job about the best person not the resume.
I guess you think the purpose of a group of presidential advisors, or corporate advisors for that matter, is to pitch in for the team for the common good and take one for the gipper when necessary rather than to posture to take advantage of any situation for one’s own benefit and insure that any blame falls elsewhere.
I’m not sure why you’re guessing when you could just ask. The purpose of presidential advisers or any advisers or any adviser for that matter is to…well, advise. To give information so that an individual can come to an informed decision. To expect any one individual to have the same amount of knowledge as all of the respected experts in all fields is ludicrous. Simply stated you bring in the best and the brightest as related to the current subject. After listening and learning you make a decision.
was never a Bill Clinton fan, but when he was in the room, he was pretty much the brightest bulb burning even when running on three cylinders instead of eight.
Maybe I’m missing your point but your saying that Bill Clinton was the Brightest person and was more knowledgeable than any of his advisers?
If you think Obama is up to the task, that he has proven the toughness necessary to withstand the rigors of office by dint of his four years in the IL State Senate, never having made the simplest executive decision in his entire life, then God bless you.
I have no idea whether Obama can handle the job or not. In fact no one knows whether they can handle the job or not, except those that have done it. My point is fairly simple. Handling the stress of being the president has little to do with experience and everything to do with character and to a great extent innate ability. There are people that see things and can make good decisions quickly and effectively, others can’t. Personally I’d like to see a larger push towards pulling politicians from the ranks of effective and successful business leaders rather than “experienced” politicians.
~Matt
“Maybe I’m missing your point but your saying that Bill Clinton was the Brightest person and was more knowledgeable than any of his advisers?”
Well, for the most part, yes. Certainly the former, and, except for specialized knowledge, pretty much the latter too.
“The purpose of presidential advisers or any advisers for that matter is to…well, advise.”
Actually, the objective of presidential advisors is pretty much to advance their own career. Colin Powell is a perfect example. He sits there as Secretary of State, with complete knowledge about the falsity of the accusations against his President and staff regarding the Plame leak, and the ability to bring them to an end with a press release disclosing the fact that his second in command was the source of the leak, and instead elects to let his President in a time of war twist in the wind rather than make the appropriate disclosure. That is pretty much the kind of advisor a president is going to get.
“Handling the stress of being the president has little to do with experience and everything to do with character and to a great extent innate ability.”
I agree with the character and innate ability part of that statement. Of course, having never been tested in any situation of any importance at all, we have no clue about either Obama’s character or his ability.
I don’t much like Hillary, but I do know she is tough as nails, and won’t be trembling under her bedsheet talking to her shrink at the first sign of trouble. I know that about Richardson, Romney, McCain and Rudy too, among others. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Obama have a nervous breakdown in the first year in office. Would you?
Actually, the objective of presidential advisors is pretty much to advance their own career.
Maybe my knowledge of presidential advisers is lacking, but doesn’t a president appoint his own advisers?
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Obama have a nervous breakdown in the first year in office. Would you?
I’d say it’s near impossible to tell who’s gonna bust a nut and over what. As an example we have at least one astronaut to look at. With all the crap that comes across the presidents desk I think it’s near impossible to say how one will perform. for me to say that Obama will have a breakdown would be as ignorant as if I said Hillary will not. We have no idea what each will face and or what will cause each to crack. This is of course another reason why we are supposed to have checks and balances.
~Matt
How come every single political thread boils down to you two arguing with each other?
“We have no idea what each will face and or what will cause each to crack.”
Well, actually, we have lots of experience and trials in the background of all the major candidates with the exception of Obama upon which to base pretty reasonable expectations.
If you would hire so untested a candidate for such a difficult job, I suggest you leave future hiring decisions to others.
Uhhhh…what are you talking about? I can only remember once or twice I’ve had any argument with ajfranke. A couple of time we agreed.
~Matt
OK, maybe I’m mistaking ajfranke vs. MJuric for ajfranke vs. The World.
I’m not disagreeing with you that more experience would be better. I’m just disagreeing that the kind of experience you get from being a career politician isn’t always directly related to being the president.
For instance I would nearly reject out of hand the experience of being a senator or rep for the simple reason that most of your “Decisions” are not decisions but merely collective bargaining. Governor, IMHO, is a much better position to come from and more applicable to the presidency.
My main point is that there is literally a plethora of people that are not in politics at all that have far more applicable experience than most politicians. Frankly I would much, much, much rather see someone with no political experience but 15-20 years of being a business owner or CEO or something along those lines as president than a senator or a single term governor with senatorial background.
I’d also hope that those coming from the business arena would have a less tainted point of view and more real world less political attitude. Of course the major drawback would be that they would not know some of the political games and how to “grease the wheels”.
~Matt
That could be ajfranke is a bit of a combatant, I think it’s because he doesn’t get laid enough, but could be wrong 
~Matt
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I’ve always stated that I would much rather see a businessman or an ex-general in the White House instead of a politician. They may not be able to “grease the wheels” so to speak, but maybe this country needs some squeaky wheels.