Why are the two biggest family holidays so close to each other

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

Why do you hate baby Jesus and capitalism?

Also markets are open on Black Friday. Half day which is a PITA

Same reason for summer break for school - the harvest. Back when more resources were spent farming, you can’t afford to take days off in the summer. School was out in the summer so kids and teachers could support the farm and the other activities that can’t be done in the winter months.

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

Why do you hate Jewish people?

I just want to know what Jesus has to do with bunnies and colored eggs?

I get more irritated the Father’s Day falls in the summer. As if I want to be outside anymore than I need to be when it’s hot as balls in June.

I want to move Father’s Day to the fall. Give me a Saturday or Sunday. No chores. Empty house. Just me and football…guilt free.

I just want to know what Jesus has to do with bunnies and colored eggs?

Why do you hate Christianity so much? :slight_smile:

Big businesses close for Christmas week (add New Years Day) which sucks, cold, no sun. Why not make 4th a 2 day affair so this week can close?

You forgot about Festivus. It is the most family oriented celebration.

I get more irritated the Father’s Day falls in the summer. As if I want to be outside anymore than I need to be when it’s hot as balls in June.

I want to move Father’s Day to the fall. Give me a Saturday or Sunday. No chores. Empty house. Just me and football…guilt free.

It’s hot in June?

I get more irritated the Father’s Day falls in the summer. As if I want to be outside anymore than I need to be when it’s hot as balls in June.

I want to move Father’s Day to the fall. Give me a Saturday or Sunday. No chores. Empty house. Just me and football…guilt free.

It’s hot in June?

South of the 49th parallel it is. You should try it some time.

I get more irritated the Father’s Day falls in the summer. As if I want to be outside anymore than I need to be when it’s hot as balls in June.

I want to move Father’s Day to the fall. Give me a Saturday or Sunday. No chores. Empty house. Just me and football…guilt free.

It’s hot in June?

South of the 49th parallel it is. You should try it some time.

At the beginning of June our friends’ pool was still mostly a giant block of ice.

Assuming this is serious question, it has to do with a couple of unrelated things.

Christmas, or actually the birth of Christ, has always been associated with the solstice. There is an early Christian writing that suggests that Gabriel told Mary that she was with child on March 25th. December 25th is about 9 months later and the winter solstice. As we all know, in the single digit centuries,if the catholic church decided that was the date that was the law, so we are stuck with the date (BTW, until the church decided 12/25 was the date in the 4th century it was celebrated in March)

Thanksgiving is a harvest celebration with no religious overtones (that I know of). In North America most of the crops are out of the fields and put away by the end of October, so the celebration of the harvest is a few weeks later so everyone could put things away and prepare for winter. Hence late November.

In summary, one is a religious holiday and the US has no real say in the matter. The other is a tradition based in the history of the US and no one is going to screw with that either, so we are stuck.

On a “there might be hope” note, there is currently a push to put Halloween, my personal favorite religious holiday, on the last Saturday in October. I have no problem with that.

I get more irritated the Father’s Day falls in the summer. As if I want to be outside anymore than I need to be when it’s hot as balls in June.

I want to move Father’s Day to the fall. Give me a Saturday or Sunday. No chores. Empty house. Just me and football…guilt free.

It’s hot in June?

South of the 49th parallel it is. You should try it some time.

Depends how far south of it you are.

June is the beginning of winter.

I have a public company client that runs on a Dec. 1 to Nov. 30 fiscal year, which means end of November is a mad crush as they try to hit sales numbers, which means Thanksgiving gets nuked. Then they do the same thing for the week from Christmas to New Year’s as customers try to get budgets spent by end of calendar year.

Have had a couple of Thanksgivings and Christmas holiday seasons significantly affected as a result.

Assuming this is serious question, it has to do with a couple of unrelated things.

Christmas, or actually the birth of Christ, has always been associated with the solstice. There is an early Christian writing that suggests that Gabriel told Mary that she was with child on March 25th. December 25th is about 9 months later and the winter solstice. As we all know, in the single digit centuries,if the catholic church decided that was the date that was the law, so we are stuck with the date (BTW, until the church decided 12/25 was the date in the 4th century it was celebrated in March).

I’ve always read that the Christmas date was basically a co-opting of the Roman Saturnalia festival that took place around the winter Solstice.

I also seem to recall reading or hearing somewhere that there is some indication in the synoptic gospels that contain the birth stories that Jesus was born in the Spring. Now whether you can take that as an indication of historical reality or not is another question…

Seems like the most likely answer is Christmas is where it is because ultimately the winter solstice and we have no reliable idea when Jesus was actually born.

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

Maybe try moving Thanksgiving to October? The 2nd Monday in October is pretty good.

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

Maybe try moving Thanksgiving to October? The 2nd Monday in October is pretty good.

Isn’t that the Queen’s birthday?

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

Maybe try moving Thanksgiving to October? The 2nd Monday in October is pretty good.

Isn’t that the Queen’s birthday?

You’re thinking of the Queen of Australia’s birthday. The Queen of Canada’s Birthday is in April.

I have never understood why in America we have the two biggest family holidays (thanksgiving is typically a guaranteed 4 day weekend so is Xmas).

Shouldn’t thanksgiving move to a a Friday/three day weekend.

And make maybe Labor Day a 4 day weekend.

Maybe try moving Thanksgiving to October? The 2nd Monday in October is pretty good.

Isn’t that the Queen’s birthday?

You’re thinking of the Queen of Australia’s birthday. The Queen of Canada’s Birthday is in April.

Really I thought Victoria Day was in May