From where do Supergo’s Scattante road frames originate? I got my new catalog over the weekend, and they have some screaming deals on those bikes. If I was in the market for a road bike (which I’m not), I would have to look very hard those deals, especially since I’m poor and don’t have an LBS in my town. Who makes those frames, and are they any good?
I’m sure they are made by the same schoolkids in Taiwan that make Trek, Felt, Cervelo, Giant, Cannondale, etc, etc,…
Awesome response Larry.
In a single sentence you managed to denigrate the ethics of the Asian workforce, the ethics of multiple bike makers and proved how ignorant you really are.
Do you have any evidence that school children are building these bikes? Have you ever visited their factories? Or are you assuming that anything built in a foreign country employs children to work in their factories?
Jesus Larry, you seem to have gotten Russell and Wolfwood’s panties in a bind. Guess they don’t like the Asian school children jokes. I suggest you get suitably politically correct before you offend anyone else.
SM
(I’m cuban. So don’t make any rafter jokes or you might make me cry.)
I wouldn’t be afraid of one of these bikes. They will lack certain details and finish quality, but I could assert that they would be a nice machine for the money.
Who knows? Maybe schoolkids make these, possibly not. But the price is fair, and Taiwan makes pretty decent bicycles.
I think Larry has confused Taiwan with some other country (maybe China?). Taiwan school children are among the highest performers in the world on various measures of academic performance. Taiwan manufacturing includes companies making some of the most technologically sophisticated products, such as semiconductors and flat panels. Any bike equipment being built in Taiwan is likely to use the most advanced machine tools and not much low-end labor.
I believe they’re made by Martec, a Taiwan company that also produces the Kestrel Talon. The carbon Scattante frame looks to be the same frame that’s sold by Pedalforce and EPX. I imagine that it’s a pretty decent construction if Kestrel is ok with them making their Talon. If anything, I would take a guess and imagine to keep the cost down that the scattante road frame uses a slightly lower modulus of carbon fiber but is overbuilt to prevent chance of failure. Of course, that’s just a guess.
most of supergos frames are made by a taiwanese company named pacific which is not to be confused with the department store bike company of the same name. the frames are cheap, made out of good materials but with mediocre finish and many an overheated tube. the carbon bikes come from martec who seems to be making everyone’s carbon.
most of supergos frames are made by a taiwanese company named pacific…
My understanding is that both Pacific and Martec are simply marketing groups that have managed to gather together and represent a large number of small manufacturing entities in Tiawan. I beleive that EPX, a marketing/design group out of Australia, and that this company did the R&D for the EPX carbon frames which they then licensed/partnered with Martec in order to have the frames manufactured in Tiawan (and/or Malaysia). Since Martec pays a license fee, they are free to market excess production to other companies - hence the Scantante CFR (aka EPX).