Seems like it would be the fastest and lightest type of wheel. Anyone have any comments?
Ken Lehner made one and posted pics here, back in the T-Rex days (Ah, good times…). Do a search on his posts.
That was the original J disc in the 80’s wasn’t it?
As Paulo mentioned, Ken has built one.
Another option for people who aren’t as handy is a pre cut disc cover from wheelbuilder.com
Thanks. What is Ken Lehner’s Slowtwitch name?
klehner. He actually spends most of his time on the LR these days.
I had a green one, but I didn’t build it. I’ve heard of people making them out of plastic shrink wrap (same stuff you put on the windows and use a hair dryer), but I’d imagine it rips pretty easily.
I have one at home.
Wooden spokes, lenticular
long skewer.
I use it for PIna Coladas
yes and adding dimples takes a long time to ![]()
Thom.
Seems like it would be the fastest and lightest type of wheel. Anyone have any comments?
Given the right wheel, it could be very light indeed. But I preferred reliable (and cheap) and to use my PTap.
You are an ispiration to me. Imagine a Reynolds KOM with a mylar disc.
I use to make these all the time, and I’ve read some of the “home brew” solutions for this. Here is a link on the forum.
After making quite few, I would suggest the following as necessary elaborations to the stuff on the forum:
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You don’t need “yogurt cup inserts” in the monocote/ultracote if you are careful.
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A deep aero rim makes life 100% easier. Don’t do it on a box rim.
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Do NOT use contact cement. What a nightmare. Go to the hobby shop and they will have both supergel glue and/or runny super glue. Then buy the “kicker” solution that makes it instant set.
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A heat gun is absolutely necessary.
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Exacto knife off the extra. Don’t worry if you aren’t perfect, since you can trim the extra.
Once you do 2 or 3, the job will be obvious. The first one, uggghh.
Theo
i’ve always thought about making one of these. I saw in the old thread that the MA3 was a suggested rim to use. I cant seem to find that one out there anymore. Is there something else in the same price point that works as well.
Another stupid question… I curently only have a road bike. Would there be much gain from a disc even though the cockpit isn’t all that aero?
I’m thinking Lew rims are the ones to use.
Okay, I went down to the garage and dug out one of my old wheels. I’ve move multiple times, and the cover was half ripped off on the one I found, which shows some construction details.
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The above photo is the hub hole, just poking through the monocote. Again, I never had an real issues just cutting a hole in the monocote, but some will laminate in a yogurt lids or something to protect the monocote.
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Here’s an inside photo.
Now, I normally just raced on these wheels, so I covered the stem hole with clear packing tape. If I remember right, I would use a thin pump head and only have a hole in one side. However, if I remember right, this was the biggest pain of the wheel, since you had to handle the hole pretty gingerly.
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I’ve been running HED3 for 8 years, but in retrospect, I’ve been thinking about getting a Powertap, and this (and others have said) is the perfect union.
I did have the normal “wheel covers” (multiple types, and at least one like the ones sold by CO Cyclist). They all added a pound of rotating weight to the bike and felt heavy. The monokote cover is much, much lighter. Once you’ve done a wheel or two, you can really shrink the monocote, and if you tap the wheel it sounds like a drum head, or super tight.
The bigger thing to to make sure you’ve built a super tight wheel, without spoke twist. A good wheel, ala Jobst Brandt’s advice, simply doesn’t become untrued. (The rim may dent, but that is another problem)
I wish somebody would actually take one of these into a wind tunnel and try it out. I think JDisk had a good idea, but the company fell for other reasons that just having a bad product idea.
It always felt much less sloppy than the wheel covers, and intuitively it should test very well.
I miss my J-disc. Was a really nice wheel. Used a hair dryer to tighten the mylar when is became loose.
just doing a google search brought up this page:
http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/ariail/fabric_wheeldisks.htm
Interesting idea of how to attach it to the rim to keep it removeable. He used ripstop nylon, but I’m sure it could be done with the mylar stuff. I wonder how much weight the added fiberglass would add.
I made one and posted it on here. I don’t know how long the post or pictures last though. It was pretty easy to do and cheap.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=223696;search_string=home%20made;#223696
I made one before. It was pretty easy, but I’m not sure I was convinced it ‘worked’. I bought heat shrink mylar from a hobby store and used plastic caps to make holes for the hubs and a square plastic cap for the valve. It ironed out pretty nicely, but I didn’t see much improvement in my cycling with it, although I didn’t really do any field testing.

EDIT: Added the picture. I also used ultrcote mylar. And the blotches you see are from rain I believe, but I don’t really remember (it was a while ago). The blue waves were my attempt at being creative. They looked better in person ;-).