Who has (or has made) a mylar disc?

Seems like it would be the fastest and lightest type of wheel. Anyone have any comments?

Ken Lehner made one and posted pics here, back in the T-Rex days (Ah, good times…). Do a search on his posts.

That was the original J disc in the 80’s wasn’t it?

As Paulo mentioned, Ken has built one.

Another option for people who aren’t as handy is a pre cut disc cover from wheelbuilder.com

Thanks. What is Ken Lehner’s Slowtwitch name?

klehner. He actually spends most of his time on the LR these days.

I had a green one, but I didn’t build it. I’ve heard of people making them out of plastic shrink wrap (same stuff you put on the windows and use a hair dryer), but I’d imagine it rips pretty easily.

I have one at home.
Wooden spokes, lenticular
long skewer.
I use it for PIna Coladas

yes and adding dimples takes a long time to :slight_smile:

Thom.

Seems like it would be the fastest and lightest type of wheel. Anyone have any comments?

https://home.comcast.net/~kenlehner/blue-whitedisk_small.JPG

Given the right wheel, it could be very light indeed. But I preferred reliable (and cheap) and to use my PTap.

You are an ispiration to me. Imagine a Reynolds KOM with a mylar disc.

I use to make these all the time, and I’ve read some of the “home brew” solutions for this. Here is a link on the forum.

After making quite few, I would suggest the following as necessary elaborations to the stuff on the forum:

  1. You don’t need “yogurt cup inserts” in the monocote/ultracote if you are careful.

  2. A deep aero rim makes life 100% easier. Don’t do it on a box rim.

  3. Do NOT use contact cement. What a nightmare. Go to the hobby shop and they will have both supergel glue and/or runny super glue. Then buy the “kicker” solution that makes it instant set.

  4. A heat gun is absolutely necessary.

  5. Exacto knife off the extra. Don’t worry if you aren’t perfect, since you can trim the extra.

Once you do 2 or 3, the job will be obvious. The first one, uggghh.

Theo

i’ve always thought about making one of these. I saw in the old thread that the MA3 was a suggested rim to use. I cant seem to find that one out there anymore. Is there something else in the same price point that works as well.

Another stupid question… I curently only have a road bike. Would there be much gain from a disc even though the cockpit isn’t all that aero?

I’m thinking Lew rims are the ones to use.

Okay, I went down to the garage and dug out one of my old wheels. I’ve move multiple times, and the cover was half ripped off on the one I found, which shows some construction details.

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6351/noyogurtus0.th.jpg Link

The above photo is the hub hole, just poking through the monocote. Again, I never had an real issues just cutting a hole in the monocote, but some will laminate in a yogurt lids or something to protect the monocote.

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3098/insidekr7.th.jpg Link

Here’s an inside photo.

Now, I normally just raced on these wheels, so I covered the stem hole with clear packing tape. If I remember right, I would use a thin pump head and only have a hole in one side. However, if I remember right, this was the biggest pain of the wheel, since you had to handle the hole pretty gingerly.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5834/stemdp1.th.jpg Link

I’ve been running HED3 for 8 years, but in retrospect, I’ve been thinking about getting a Powertap, and this (and others have said) is the perfect union.

I did have the normal “wheel covers” (multiple types, and at least one like the ones sold by CO Cyclist). They all added a pound of rotating weight to the bike and felt heavy. The monokote cover is much, much lighter. Once you’ve done a wheel or two, you can really shrink the monocote, and if you tap the wheel it sounds like a drum head, or super tight.

The bigger thing to to make sure you’ve built a super tight wheel, without spoke twist. A good wheel, ala Jobst Brandt’s advice, simply doesn’t become untrued. (The rim may dent, but that is another problem)

I wish somebody would actually take one of these into a wind tunnel and try it out. I think JDisk had a good idea, but the company fell for other reasons that just having a bad product idea.

It always felt much less sloppy than the wheel covers, and intuitively it should test very well.

I miss my J-disc. Was a really nice wheel. Used a hair dryer to tighten the mylar when is became loose.

just doing a google search brought up this page:

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/ariail/fabric_wheeldisks.htm

Interesting idea of how to attach it to the rim to keep it removeable. He used ripstop nylon, but I’m sure it could be done with the mylar stuff. I wonder how much weight the added fiberglass would add.

I made one and posted it on here. I don’t know how long the post or pictures last though. It was pretty easy to do and cheap.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=223696;search_string=home%20made;#223696

I made one before. It was pretty easy, but I’m not sure I was convinced it ‘worked’. I bought heat shrink mylar from a hobby store and used plastic caps to make holes for the hubs and a square plastic cap for the valve. It ironed out pretty nicely, but I didn’t see much improvement in my cycling with it, although I didn’t really do any field testing.

http://www.freewebs.com/fata05/mylar.bmp

EDIT: Added the picture. I also used ultrcote mylar. And the blotches you see are from rain I believe, but I don’t really remember (it was a while ago). The blue waves were my attempt at being creative. They looked better in person ;-).