Who beat Lance in a TDF time trial?

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I think it was 3 or 4 years ago, and his name is SANTIAGO BOTERO.

The guy just won the Tour de Romandie (Pro Tour stage race in Switzerland), winning the last stage, an individual TT. He also stick with Damiano Cunego in the 2 mountain stages to beat him in the overall standings by about 30 seconds.

Now, that was almost his first race of the year, he is nowhere near his peak (which is planned for the TDF) and says he is finally feeling good again after 2 miserable years that saw him injured more often than not.

Another one to watch in July (maybe) !!!???!!!

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Yep, and I’d say he is one hell of a trump card up Floyd’s sleeve.

Watch out for the TDF TTT (plus Eki seems to be out of the 05 TDf, and this definitely pisses me off!).

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I suppose you are unaware that he is an ex-World TT Champion? HAving won the title in his home country, he has failed to produce the goods up until now. It will be good to have someone esle to watch come July, but I don’t see him as being a serious contender in the GC as he usually dies once the steep, steep stuff gets going and is a little fragile overall.

Anyway, didn’t Ulrich also beat Lance once in a tdf TT?

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Yes, I know he was world TT champion, and also won the climber jersey in the TDF the year before beating Armstrong in the TT as you may know :-).

Ulrich did beat Armstrong two years ago as well, you are right.

Anyway, the aim was to point out the performance of Santiago in the Tour de Romandie.

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Sorry, I thought the title was an open question. My mistake.

You are abolsutely right though that was a sterling performance in Switzerland. I bet T-mobile are pissed that he didn’t do anything like that whilst riding for them! Still, seems like Phonak may now have a leader for tdf sorted.

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I bet T-mobile are pissed that he didn’t do anything like that whilst riding for them!

A couple of guys seem to have gotten new leases on their riding life after leavingt T-Mobile. Botero and Bobby J.

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David Millar also beat armstrong in a TT at the TdF (2003, under the rain)
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Botero has always had ONE bad day at the Tour (or any major stage race) and looses 15-20 minutes. The year he won the TT I think he blew up a few days later on Ventoux and lost 20+. This set him up a couple days later to break away early and win the climbing stage to Les Deux Alpes (i think). He’s definately strong, and hopefully will be more consistent this year the the past two where he was a total disaster.

I don’t think he can handle the pressure of leading a team, but will be a great combo with Landis this year.

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THat is so true. I wonder who they will choose as T-mobile leader this tour. THere are number of contenders based on this season’s preformances and Kloden’s last year.

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Wasn’t that the prologue? If so, I’m not sure that tdf sees that as a stage win.

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What stageTT did Millar win then? I cannot recall the stage, but believe you.

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the last TT stage in the 2003 TdF, when he was holding off Jan Ullrich.
Lance got second and Millar won in the rain. Ullrich was 3rd and crashed.

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I recall it now (I should I watched it live!) not gonna be the first recollection of that day, given a) Jan’s crash and b) sealing Lance’s joining the 5 club.

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I don’t know if Milar’s TT counts BECAUSE it was the last stage. As soon as Jan crashed, Armstrong visibly let up.

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It has always seemed strange to me that both Sevilla and Botero did well in Kelme but as soon as they left they really struggled. I had always wondered if Manzano was really telling the truth about all of the doping in the Kelme team. But what can you say Botero is really thriving under the direction of the Phonak Team.

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Tyler was second and Lance was third.

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Lots of people. Heck, even Bruyneel, Virenque and Pantani:

(1995, 2nd TT)

  1. Miguel Indurain (Esp - Banesto) 00:57:34.
    (average: 48,461 km/h)
  2. Bjarne Riis (Dan) +48 secs.
  3. Tony Rominger (Sui) 1:05.
  4. Ivan Gotti (Ita) 1:41.
  5. Fernando Escartin (Esp) 1:46.
  6. Alex Zulle (Sui) 1:49.
  7. Laurent Jalabert (Fra) 1:58.
  8. Melchor Mauri (Esp) 2:18.
  9. Richard Virenque (Fra) 2:37.
  10. Alvaro Mejia (Col) 3:07.
  11. Laurent Madouas (Fra) 3:15.
  12. Thierry Marie (Fra) 3:37.
  13. Laurent Brochard (Fra) 3:42.
  14. Erik Breukink (P-B) 3:43.
  15. Bo Hamburger (Dan) 3:44.
  16. Gabriele Colombo (Ita) 4:04.
  17. Claudio Chiappucci (Ita) 4:20.
  18. Viatcheslav Ekimov (Rus) 4:21.
  19. Laurent Dufaux (Sui) 4:21.
  20. Alberto Elli (Ita) 4:32.
  21. Hernan Buenahora (Col) 4:43.
  22. Massimiliano Lelli (Ita) 4:45.
  23. Johan Bruyneel (Bel) 4:46.
  24. Bruno Cenghialta (Ita) 4:54.
  25. Francois Simon (Fra) 5:02.
  26. Alessio Galletti (Ita) 5:04.
  27. Rolf Aldag (All) 5:06.
  28. Jesper Skibby (Dan) 5:17.
  29. Jean-Cyril Robin (Fra) 5:20.
  30. Jean-Francois Bernard (Fra) 5:25.
  31. Andrea Peron (Ita) 5:28.
  32. Rossano Brasi (Ita) 5:33.
  33. Armand de las Cuevas (Fra) 5:42.
  34. Marco Pantani (Ita) 5:45.
  35. Arturas Kasputis (Lit) 5:52.
  36. Nicola Loda (Ita) 5:52.
  37. Yvon Ledanois (Fra) 6:06.
  38. Zenon Jaskula (Pol) 6:08.
  39. Gilles Bouvard (Fra) 6:13.
  40. Erik Dekker (P-B) 6:15.
  41. Alexandre Gontchenkov (Ukr) 6:16.
  42. Gian Matteo Fagnini (Ita) 6:23.
  43. Lance Armstrong (USA) 6:24.
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Or if it indeed because it may have been drug fuelled.

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I had already connected the dots… but was to chicken to post. :slight_smile:

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Also, although it wasn’t a full TT, didn’t the young guy from Fassa Bortolo win the prologue last year? His name escapes me, but he had quite a Tour/season.