When do you intervene with a teacher?

Just as an aside, when I was a kid I had a Victory Wooden Puzzle of the U.S. It was great. You learned size, shape, location what States boarder each other plus little pictures of what the State produces and some notable features. I loved it. I played with it on a regular basis from about 5-10 first learning it then seeing how quickly I could do it. It made US Geography in grade school easy and gave me an interest of Geography in general.

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This seems timely…

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/us/12th-grade-reading-skills-low-naep.html?unlocked_article_code=1.kk8.DHa_.Y7A5GBwqj5hw&smid=url-share

Reading Skills of 12th Graders Hit a New Low

High school seniors had the worst reading scores since 1992 on a national test, a loss probably related to increases in screen time and the pandemic. Their math scores fell as well.

Something missing in this whole conversation is the OP. When do you intervene with a teacher.

If this had been my child and the following assumptions (mentioned here were true).

  1. Teacher requires perfection
  2. Student took test multiple times
  3. Student wasn’t given their test to see what they missed.
  4. Other assignments haven’t been graded, so student appears to be failing.

At this point it is reasonable for the parent to intervene. While I’m all for advocating for yourself and learning that skill, there are a couple of points that they can’t push the teacher on that I can. 1. I can demand the teacher show us what my child missed. 2. I can demand the teacher tell me when the other assignments will be in the gradebook so that my child will not be appearing to fail the class. If either of those can not be resolved, then a meeting with the principal is next.

I’m not required to agree with all the methods that the teacher is using. Like requiring 100%. But I can demand reasonable items like seeing what was missed and expecting the teacher do their job and grade assignments in a reasonable time.

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If you don’t know all 50 states, can’t find them on a map, or spell them I’d think you’re a fucking idiot.

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https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/271570/pin-us-states-on-a-borderless-map-sudden-death

https://www.jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/6121/us-states-with-an-empty-map
Surprised no-one has put a quiz up.

Took me a few tries but I did get it done. The lack of border lines makes it a bit challenging in the NE where the states are so small.

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There’s some luck of the draw. I had to fight through an early draw of Delaware and Rhode Island! Tiny little buggers.

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Wouldn’t be easier for everyone if you just helped your kid study and pass the test?

Same here. I finally adopted a strategy of passing until I could fill in the borders that I new better.

I fear a number of the replies in this thread show the inability of people to look at context and assess each situation appropriately, consider reasons other than those they have first considered, and a desire to blame everyone else for anything that isn’t exactly the way they think it should be, without reflecting on why someone may choose to do things differently and that, in turn, goes a long way to explain why America is currently America. Thankfully the OP appears to have handled the matter in a reasonably sensible manner.

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Of course it would help if we knew what my child was getting wrong. Hence my comment. But yes, I would help my child study. But first I would tell the teacher to let us know what my child got wrong.

But the student can figure out what they got wrong, very easily. I believe thats the point of this lesson for the teacher/this assignment. Process of elimination (problem solving) and repetition (resolution).

If this was a full exam without known questions and multipole answer choices where it was impossible to memorize the questions for later review, I’d agree.

The test content is known. The answers are known. Why does the teacher have to tell the student they spelled Arkansas or Connecticut wrong when half of the assignment is to have the student problem solve?

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This reminds me of something that went around 20 years ago supposedly from Quantas airlines mechanics. The pilots would report problems and the mechanics/techs would try to fix it.

One that I still remember.

Pilot: ā€œSomething loose in the cabinā€.
Mechanic: ā€œSomething tightened in the cabinā€.

I would like to think that the teacher would have explained to the students why they were being graded in such a fashion. Maybe they did and the student forgot, maybe they didn’t.

As many here have suggested, there can be solid reasoning behind grading the test/quiz that way (0 or 100). But I believe the teacher should explain that reasoning beforehand. Sometimes we can’t see the forest for the trees, and the student may have been focusing on the tree (misspelled word) and missed the forest. IMO, it is the teacher’s job to help guide them along part of the way.

Miyagi never told Danielson why he was painting the fence or waxing on and waxing off.

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bow-daniel

I don’t think i saw that she was able to pass the test. Good!

I know I’ve cast some votes for the method on this particular assignment but I didn’t comment on the teacher’s behaviour here. That’s unacceptable and a teacher shouldn’t be getting impatient or rude about this. If the teacher is going to be bold enough to give this assingment then they need to understand the outcomes and be prepared to facilitate the students to help navigate.

I also think the coach’s punishment is unnecessary. I’m assuming this is school sports? If so, there is already an academic standard for eligibility. My opinion is that it should be binary and remain binary. The student is either eligible or ineligible. The coach is already tied to the school.

In a club setting I can see a coach may demand more and I can swallow that pill a bit more. But I can see how some value the coach carter approach for school sports.

I clicked on one of those links provided above and spelled all of the states. I got maybe 5 wrong (I’m dyslsexic, cut me some slack). For the life of me, I thought Missouri was spelled Mossouri. I know, it looks stupid. It is stupid. The abbreviation is MO and my dad used to tell a joke about it being called Moossouri because of all the cows.

Either way, I figured out what I could and couldn’t spell in about 5 minutes without a teacher telling me. what I got wrong.

I wonder if part of this assignment was for the parents (no offense to Moonrocket, who is asking us this question in good faith).

I will say this, part of teaching is what you don’t teach. But there’s nuance to it, and it depends entirely on the level of student. I rarely told a 9th grade Algebra student the answer, but I never said, ā€œlook it up.ā€ I’d open their book and show them how to find the answer and walk them through it, because I wanted them to be able to solve it on their own, but they weren’t ready yet.

I might have told 10th grade honors to look it up.

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You don’t say…:wink:

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LOL! I didn’t even realize I misspelled that.