Some unrequested advice after looking at your website
-a ton of your tags are what i would call “skater”- while this may be attractive to the BMX crowd, i think the roadies and the triathletes are not in that demographic. Keep in mind that triathlon demographics are VERY VERY upmarket in general, and then look at the graphics you are offering- skulls, etc. Not a great match.
-im not sure what would be a great match- i would suggest things like flames, geometric patterns, etc.
-you dont seem to offer a non-custom disk option, which i think would be very attractive
-your custom product seems absurdly expensive- i have gotten custom stuff from tai before at $100/disc- why would i want to pay $300 for your custom stuff?
Thanks for your input. We’ve got a slew of new designs on the drawing board and a few of them already incorporate your design ideas. Send me an email and I’ll make sure you know when they go live.
All of our stock products are currently available in a disc size.
Disc’s aren’t cheap to cover. I’m assuming that what you got from Tai was some cut vinyl from what I’ve seen. Our custom product is truly custom. There is a reason pro teams are calling on us every week.
http://www.twitpic.com/1aiym/full
It seems that paying 300 dollars to have a customized set of wheels would be a drop in the bucket for most people riding an 8k stock bike.
But hey, maybe I’m are wrong…
Make me the tackiest wheel decals!
Disc’s aren’t cheap to cover. I’m assuming that what you got from Tai was some cut vinyl from what I’ve seen. Our custom product is truly custom. There is a reason pro teams are calling on us every week.
http://www.twitpic.com/1aiym/full
It seems that paying 300 dollars to have a customized set of wheels would be a drop in the bucket for most people riding an 8k stock bike.
But hey, maybe I’m are wrong…
Hrm. Do you really think sideways namedropping, backhandedly bashing a competitor, and then sarcastically defending your pricing “is are” the way to win clients?
John
Hey John, I realize I came off brash, but I’m here to recruit Wheeltag enthusiasts, not convert people that don’t get it.
No disrespect to Tai - I’ve complemented his work in past posts but what he is usually doing is different than our process. Nothing wrong with that if it’s the look you want.
As for the pricing - that wasn’t sarcasm.
As for the pricing - that wasn’t sarcasm.
So you didn’t choose a price based on your cost to manufacture, but on perceived value? Fair enough…but it seems a bit like saying: “what’s the price??..well, how much you got?”
Both custom pricing and “stock” designs are based on production costs. Custom obviously takes more design time and those orders are always run in lower quantity, so the cost tends to run higher.
That said, perceived value is everywhere you look. What did it “cost” to make that North Face jacket? Or that cup of Starbucks?
not convert people that don’t get it.
“How to win friends and influence people.”
not convert people that don’t get it.
“How to win friends and influence people.”
What do you expect from someone that is admittedly canted towards the skaterpunk side of things graphicswise, and bills himself as “funkmaster fresh”?
John
Id agree- this guy is managing to push all my wrong buttons-
i would point out:
-i already have custom bike graphics on some bikes
-i am a bike dork and spend money making my bikes look nice
-therefore, i am very very much in this guys target market. I woudl actually pay that much for his product if i liked any of the graphics.
His issues:
-product is absurdly expensive. No way his production costs resemble that at all.
-product is totally mismatched to his audience, stylewise
-He should offer about 4x different simple designs, but in about 80 colors each so everyone can get one that matches their bike. You dont want a skull, you want a yellow flame that is an exact match to your frame trim color. etc
-he also manages to bring a hiphop/skater attitude to a sport that couldnt be more demographically opposite of skater.
-he demonstrates with his “im not here to make converts” that he clearly has zero background in sales.