What's Next? (bike technology)

So what’s the next big technological advancement in tri/TT bike designs, wheels and accessories that is going to propel us even faster?

What training aids and advancements will make us faster?

Here are my top 10 advancements that I think we will see in the next 3-5 years, in no particular order:

  1. Carbon wheels with carbon rims that actually work. Zipp has lead the way, HED is comnig onboard, prices will fall, clincher models will follow.

  2. Power meters that record HR, speed, etc. (see Polar) will become cheaper and easier to use.

  3. Tubeless road tires. But who cares?

  4. Hydration system. Someone is going to invent the ultimate system that really works and is super aero, have no idea what that is.

  5. Aero helmets. Wait until July … and get a sneak peak into the future (Giro/Bell).

  6. Aero clothing, see-> Swiftskin

  7. Online interactive coaching, where you upload your data (see #2) and the coach builds your plan using this data. Really, this will work, I am certain. (of course an excellent coach helps … )

  8. Diet. Yeah, some big breakthrough, not sure what. But something akin to the fAtkins craze, but made for endurance athletes.

  9. Legal performance enhancing something or other. You know, “vitamins”, that work and are safe. Red Bull does not count.

  10. Standardized bike fitting using digital imaging, which taken from all angles can actually compute a riders drag very accurately.

… Well that’s it, feel free to add on …

Infinately variable transmission. Must be compact, light weight and will be all gears, no belts or pulleys. Just a matter of time. The manual/derailleur system is a dinosaur.

Gene therapy, for a fee of course! You can have your genes altered so even the slowest of us will turn in super fast times. There will probably be standard and modified class. Ironman times under 8 hours will be normal.

“1. Carbon wheels with carbon rims that actually work. Zipp has lead the way, HED is comnig onboard, prices will fall, clincher models will follow.”

    • How about a lighter material, say Kevlar®? My Accel II is feather light and is a great climbing wheel for hilly course that still gives me all the disc qualities… Except at CaliMan, where the disc (STIFF) wheel co-conspired with the rotten pavement to just jar my ass raw… The road was so rough my adductors hurt the next day from trying to hold on!!

“2. Power meters that record HR, speed, etc. (see Polar) will become cheaper and easier to use.”

    • Already happening, and getting close to something I can afford. Problem with Polars though, NOT RELIABLE. I did a big ride on Saturday, and my 710 didn’t pick up a single heartbeat.

“3. Tubeless road tires. But who cares?”

    • Do you mean tubulars? Pain to change, but don’t flat often.

“4. Hydration system. Someone is going to invent the ultimate system that really works and is super aero, have no idea what that is.”

    • It’s here, NeverReach®. Problem is trying to clean it after a race…

“10. Standardized bike fitting using digital imaging, which taken from all angles can actually compute a riders drag very accurately.”

    • That would be cool, but still needs to be tweaked with a CT and some trial and error.

What about radical changes to handlebars, they have basically been the same shape since the begining of time.

I also believe that the derailleur system is a dinasour and needs to be changed as soon as possible.

What about shoes? and Chains? and Gloves?

David J

That which will make us faster and that which we will spend our money on are probably two different subjects. Here is my shot at it…

  1. GPS units on the bike ie Timex so we don’t have to calibrate anymore. Mix it in with power, heart rate, temperature, and elevation and we are starting to get somewhere. Make it reliable and there you go.

  2. There’s gotta be something better than these greasy chains, the #1 maintainence pain. Belt drive?

  3. As you say, a better hydration system is overdue.

  4. Not going to make us faster, but I’ve been thinking about a system that would somehow cut out wind noise and let you hear cars coming up from behind much better.

  5. I hate to bring them into the thread, but training products ie powercranks. Also much more competition for computrainer, Cyclops has a system that I demo’d but haven’t heard discussed here.

That’s my wish list.

The roller chain is a marvel of technology. Something silly like 6% power loss. A gear/gear drive or worse, belt drive with exceed that ALWAYS by well over twice the loss in drag,heat, etc.

If you spin a gear on gear system at very high speed imagine all the heat that is generated? You don’t have that with chain on gear.

The system is sound and will never be replaced in performance bicycles.

“Bicycles are the only form of locomotion more efficient that walking…”

someone smarter than me figured that out and I can’t find the source. or refute it.

-SD

Dude: “The manual/derailleur system is a dinosaur

You spelled **BOTH **of those words correctly!!

Awwwwwww…

Further on #2… The info should be stored on a memory card (compact flash, SD, XD…). The data should be in a simple file format that would allow for easy data manipulation.

Power calculations should come from usable force pedals. Then we can add a whole lot of possible graphs and data points for improvement possibilities…

Yeah, I have a tendency to type really fast and then post immediately. Usually don’t proof read as often as I should. My errors are usually more likely to be typos rather than spelling errors.

  1. Online interactive coaching, where you upload your data (see #2) and the coach builds your plan using this data. Really, this will work, I am certain. (of course an excellent coach helps … ) <<<

You can already do this with Polars PPP software. I use it with all of my tri/duathletes, runners and cyclists. Each night they download their training, shoot it to me via email, I upload it into the Polar Software and I can view their entire workout. I can make adjustments and email them back their next day training session.

Now if they could come out with a “real time” program where you can be online and see the data at the sametime your athlete downloads it… now that is the next step.

  1. Standardized bike fitting using digital imaging, which taken from all angles can actually compute a riders drag very accurately.

Bike sizing is entirely possible, fitting still takes experience that a computer can’t be taught.

Computing a riders drag “accurately” will never be possible, it would be like trying to figure out where a hurricane is going. A good idea but unrealistic to try to get from 2 dimension pictures. I’ve seen people program computers to do this and it doesn’t work unless the data is skewed. Measurement devices would be in the ten’s of thousands of dollars.

I like the part about carbon wheel prices falling, maybe from saturating the market.

The other’s would be great advances too. Good list.

jaretj

The roller chain is a marvel of technology. Something silly like 6% power loss.

I was flipping through an old copy of Bicycling last night, and an article claimed a properly lubiricated chain was 98% efficient, while the efficiency of a dry, crusty chain might dip as low as 93-95%.

98% sounds like pretty good efficiency.

Given perfect chainline and perfect conditions, yes. I think a bicycle overall has in the neighborhood of 11% mechanical drag. Those of you who think a CVT or gear driven drivetrain can even come close are mistaken. In industrial applications, a high speed chain driven drive is the only high rpm system that does not require active coolant. This is due in part to the low mass, low friction and relativly high tolerance due to thermal expansion of a chain driven apparatus.

Bicycles are amazing. Basically the drive systems are unchanged from their design from the 1800s. Totally amazing.

-SD

Ok, I’ll bite - A better chain!!

Genetic engineering. Yup. It’s the engine, not the bike.

Hopefully an aerobar lighter than my boat anchor. With stand-alone stems at 125g easy and drop bars in the 220g range, why can’t a clip-on be in the 250g range and a one piece in the 500g range as it wouldn’t have all the mechanical fastening bolts. Until then I’m sticking with the one-piece 440g Scott Extreme bars.

  1. a great aero drinking system for Oly distance was the Bikestream circa early 90s. They should re-birth those and people would go nuts. My old Holland cycles R26 had the feed tube routed internally in the top-tube. Downside is no refills during the event so not practical for long course. But oh so clean for Oly racing.

the HED Aero Cliplight bar is super light, I think 290 for the bar and pretty comfy too. Get some lighter pads and you’ll drop even more weight

In the future, humans should be genetically engineered to grow extra appendages that we can break off and eat.

You’ll never bonk.

Coming soon:

Oversize bottom bracket standard, to allow practical sized bearing use on modern spindles. The Shimano external cups are a stop-gap measure, and will be gone in a couple of years. BB’s will have strain-gauges built in for power measurement.

Power measurement will be an integral part of drivetrains, with attendant increase in the need for people to explain to riders what those numbers actually signify. Online coaching continues as a growth industry.

Complete drivetrains from companies other than Shimano and Campy. Look for offerings from Taiwan and France in the next couple of years. Electronic shifting will return, again - maybe they will get it right this time.

Disc brakes.

Tubeless Road tires. On pro wheels this year, expect to see them in stores in a year or so.

Carbon wheels will continue to come down in price, but not as much as everyone here seems to think - carbon is expensive to make well, lots of hand labor. Whatever wheels you do buy, you will have to chuck them when the disc brake - specific shift levers and super lo-pro disc rims come out.

Custom made cycling shoes will be a growing niche. At near $300 pr. for off the peg models, custom begins to make sense economically.

Bike manufacturing will continue it’s movement towards mainland China and India. China will be even worse than Taiwan in it’s respect for intellectual property rights, and as a result, you will be able to buy cheap knockoffs of whatever was cool six months ago at Supergo today for 1/2 the price. New product development will suffer for a while, until record unemployment and recession under the Jeb Bush presidency creates a climate conducive to domestic US manufacturing (under Chinese ownership.) Anodizing Inc., and Kinesis start to do business like it’s the 80’s all over again.

As the Euro becomes the international currency of record, the exchange value of the dollar plummets, and Chinese dollar investments begin to look like an international financial albatross. Hoping to save their investment portfolios, the Government of China, in association with KFC/Pepsico sponsors the “Bass-Pro Quadrathalon” series, which combines competitive bass fishing with Triathlon. The genetically enhanced lovechild of Jennifer Anniston and Brad Pitt (with small pieces of Kenyan DNA added) Wins the initial event, and becomes an international superstar. He is said to be dating Demi Moore (now in her 90’s, but looking just fine with yet another new set of breasts.) Daily emergency airlifts of fishing reels and Cervelo P36c knockoffs commence.

Trout, unlimited initially endorses the new event, but changes attitude 180 degrees when hordes of purple shirted newbies invade the ponds.

After initial reservation, the governing body of triathlon in the USA grudgingly agrees to sanction the new sport. Dan Empfield sues. Tinley comes out of retirement and endorses neon-colored fishing poles.

Frank introduces the POWER REEL TM. It is guaranteed to increase bait-casting efficiency by 40%, or your money back (provided you purchase the product on the first new moon of a leap year, use it, and it alone, to the exclusion of all other known fishing products, and are willing to renounce all others as false prophets of Bass-ology.)

Andy Coggan and Kraig Willet research and publish a dissertation on bait-casting technology, morphology, and efficacy. Their results seem to refute the claims of the POWER REEL TM, but also cast a strong shadow of doubt on the semi-mystic ramblings of someone who claims to have uncovered the ancient secrets of some long ago fisherman known only as Anquetiel. Soon after publication of the study, mail bombs are delivered to Coggan and Willet, and are attributed to a shady organization known only as “PERFECTION.” Rip Van Winkle goes into hiding.

Riding the incredible popularity of the new craze, Tom Demerly is elected to a Michigan State Congressional seat.

Mr. Tibbs actually manages to get laid.

Yikes - this is what happens when you pick up the computer a day after doing a 24 hour Mtn. bike race…

MH