Whatever happened to?............updated version

1.) Titanium
2.) Wendy Ingraham
3.) 5 night minimum stay
4.) Grip Shift
5.) Tri Dubai
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  1. Wing lives in SoCal, is married and has a beautiful daughter.

clm

  1. carbon fiber
  2. dunno
  3. dunno
  4. dunno
  5. the king got bored of tri?

1.) Titanium
2.) Wendy Ingraham
3.) 5 night minimum stay
4.) Grip Shift
5.) Tri Dubai

Think of titanium as the dinasouars, and carbon as mammals…And the big asteroid just hit the planet…A quick lingering death, followed by extinction…

I’m guessing that Tri Dubai went with the rest of that countries big plans. The economy has to be killing all those high end projects, building islands from scratch, giant skyscrapers, ect. Tri Dubai and a lot of the other sport things they were/are doing is a marketing thing, and if there are no buyers, then the marketing budjets will be cut…That’s my guess anyway…

Gripshift evolved into bar end shifters by the big companies, and they did not see it coming to the point that they invented those shifters. Another dinasouar story…

I have a grip-shift mountain bike! Bought it 15 years ago at Costco and I use it exclusively as a “surf bike” to get me down to a surf spot that you can’t access by car. The thing is a POS.

Think of titanium as the dinasouars, and carbon as mammals…And the big asteroid just hit the planet…A quick lingering death, followed by extinction…

Nice theory. There are some wrinkles (*). Last week the little teeny asteroid that was my Aegis T2 just hit the big asteroid that was somebody’s lexus. Not enough hard enough to die, but just enough to tap it on the top tube and crack it, requiring a complete bike breakdown, repair and repaint. Had I been riding my Spectrum Ti, there’d have been no damage at all, I am sure of it. So which one is going extinct? Its one thing to buy a CF bike for aero/speed reasons. When it comes to buying a bike to last you for years (maybe the rest of your life), Ti crushes the competition in every way. Pretty nice ride, too :slight_smile:

(*) only wrinkles. your observations on the market are clearly correct.

  1. GripShift is a SRAM product so they have not gone anywhere.

Titanium isn’t dead, it’s just underrated. I’ve got both CF and Ti and think the Ti is actually an all around nicer bike.

I didn’t say that titanium is not a good, or even great frame material, just that since the Chinese began making carbon bikes a lot cheaper, the market for them has dried up. Of course all of you out there that have ti bikes now, will continue to have them forever. Like the dinasouar bones that have survived until this day, those frames will be around for our ancestors to dig up 100’s of years from now…(-;

It is not always about actual materials strenght, longevity, ect, it is about the fickle market place. ANd for now and the forseeable future, I see carbon as the king of that domain…

a badly (or, super light) designed TI bike woulda broke too
if you want a bike to last forever, carbon can do a better job of that too, its just that nobody designs them with that as a parameter =)

Think of titanium as the dinasouars, and carbon as mammals…And the big asteroid just hit the planet…A quick lingering death, followed by extinction…

Nice theory. There are some wrinkles (*). Last week the little teeny asteroid that was my Aegis T2 just hit the big asteroid that was somebody’s lexus. Not enough hard enough to die, but just enough to tap it on the top tube and crack it, requiring a complete bike breakdown, repair and repaint. Had I been riding my Spectrum Ti, there’d have been no damage at all, I am sure of it. So which one is going extinct? Its one thing to buy a CF bike for aero/speed reasons. When it comes to buying a bike to last you for years (maybe the rest of your life), Ti crushes the competition in every way. Pretty nice ride, too :slight_smile:

(*) only wrinkles. your observations on the market are clearly correct.

a badly (or, super light) designed TI bike woulda broke too

i don’t think so. the breakage here was almost certainly caused by a point impact on an “edge” of the car across the top-tube. i have a super-light Ti frame - its had worse treatment from me, and has never suffered in the slightest. cracking/crushing Ti with this of collision is pretty hard to do. i just wish they could make quads and IT bands out of that stuff, because then i’d still be moving around normally.

you could build a carbon frame to take that impact

but then it wouldn’t be 20 grams

so nobody would buy it, heh

a badly (or, super light) designed TI bike woulda broke too

i don’t think so. the breakage here was almost certainly caused by a point impact on an “edge” of the car across the top-tube. i have a super-light Ti frame - its had worse treatment from me, and has never suffered in the slightest. cracking/crushing Ti with this of collision is pretty hard to do. i just wish they could make quads and IT bands out of that stuff, because then i’d still be moving around normally.