What I meant to say about 16:59 finishers

Great!!!
Made my banana come out my nose!

Great!!!
Made my banana come out my nose!
The funny thing is, you weren’t even eating a banana at the time…

You’re right. I don’t know what that stuff was. It certainly didn’t taste like banana… not even the second time.

(Sorry, couldn’t help it!)

So far I am still enjoying the vacation after completing 15 marathons.

While I am at best a slimmed-down version of my former fat bastard self, I am training for IMOO in September. If I make it in 16:59, I’ll be content with having finished the race, knowing that if my vacation from being a coach potato ends, I have still done something to improve my health.

Iowaguy - if you finish in 16:59 I don’t think Mainetriguy will have a problem. You are not on vacation from being a fat bastard, apparently you have escaped from fat bastardness for the long term.

I interpret Mainetriguy’s issue (and I would tend to agree) to be with the people who put in just enough work to finish in 16:59, it is their first and LAST triathlon, and they go back to the couch and the cheetos (and NO exercise), and hold themselves out to the world as being better than those of us who are excited about exercise and a healthy lifestyle (whether we race or not) but we have not done an IM.

I don’t think it degrades the experience of the other people when folks do this. If/when I do an IM I won’t be fretting too much about the people that finish after me, (at least until I can feel my legs and eat solid food). I think it would be OK for somebody to come in at 16:59 and they check off their “life accomplishment checklist” and stop doing triathlons if their next step was also very cool and difficult. I think it does degrade (in my eyes, so kill me) the quality of somebody’s IM if they cross the finish line in whatever time and then stop doing anything to go back to exactly the same couch potato they were before they decided to try an IM. If something that big is not going to at least change your life a little bit, what’s the point?

A quick addition in case my comments above did not irritate enough people. Those folks who have commented “why do you care about (braggarts, other peoples’ health/speed/attitude/history/future/etc.)” - I think you are viewing the world through the rose colored interchangeable lenses on your favorite sport optics. It is a nice thought to try and ignore the actions and words of others if “they are not really hurting you”, but the “hurting you” is kinda subjective when co-workers you actually like keep quizzing you on why you haven’t done a “real” triathlon (i.e. Ironman) while you are busting your but to train for an Olympic distance a few weeks away, and the reason they keep asking you about the “real” triathlon is because the fat slob down the hall that smokes a pack a day and drinks a 12 pack of diet coke (now with lime!!) a day is still bragging about the IM he did in 7 hours (the time gets shorter each year) way back in 1992.

OK - I’m done rambling now. I normally try to be at least a little logical but I let myself wander over into amusing/irritating (depending on the audience interpretation) land on this one. Just remember, it is OK to be fat, but don’t be a bastard.

Todd

Could not have said it better myself
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Thank you. I had that little residual thing wondering if my Ironman time was in fact good enough, but somehow, reading your post, I was cured. Hallelujah!

I realised that, um, I do my sort of thing, and do my sort of training and do the Ironman at my sort of pace, and you do your thing and go at your pace. I go as fast as I can and you go as fast as you can, and we’re both faster than some and slower than others, and um, the point is, well nothing really.

Every now and then people annoy us for some particular reason which has no logic. I do know a number of people who, did an Ironman once, and now carry a bit of weight and don’t exercise much, if at all, and I think, that’s a bit sad.

So lets have some fun. Next thread will be: "You’re not a real Ironman, unless you have (insert examples here, such as:

Run all the way
Come in within 20% of my time
Qualified for Kona
Have aero wheels
Less than 10% body fat
Got a tattoo
Let it define you as a person
Really suffered
Not been beaten by a girl
Done more than one
Talked about it all the time
Worn the finishers shirt somewhere just to show off

“I think it does degrade (in my eyes, so kill me) the quality of somebody’s IM if they cross the finish line in whatever time and then stop doing anything to go back to exactly the same couch potato they were before they decided to try an IM. If something that big is not going to at least change your life a little bit, what’s the point?”

I still don’t get why you care about it. So what if it degrades their Ironman experience in your eyes. Do you need to feel better about yourself by belittling their accomplishment… however de minimis it might be in your eyes?

A quick addition in case my comments above did not irritate enough people. Those folks who have commented “why do you care about (braggarts, other peoples’ health/speed/attitude/history/future/etc.)” - I think you are viewing the world through the rose colored interchangeable lenses on your favorite sport optics. It is a nice thought to try and ignore the actions and words of others if “they are not really hurting you”, but the “hurting you” is kinda subjective when co-workers you actually like keep quizzing you on why you haven’t done a “real” triathlon (i.e. Ironman) while you are busting your but to train for an Olympic distance a few weeks away, and the reason they keep asking you about the “real” triathlon is because the fat slob down the hall that smokes a pack a day and drinks a 12 pack of diet coke (now with lime!!) a day is still bragging about the IM he did in 7 hours (the time gets shorter each year) way back in 1992.

So in other words, you need validation from your co-workers that you are a “real” triathlete, even though you’re not doing Iron distance races, and your glory days buddy is revelling in his 5 hour Ironman from '92.

Dude. WHY DO YOU CARE?

Is it because the non-athletic co-workers “look up” more to Old Glory Days and his ever-decreasing Ironman world record from ‘92 than to your podium finish in an Olympic distance race? Have you considered that Mr. Glory Days may be jealous of your abilities, and is doing this because he wants to seem more like you in the eyes of the co-workers? Sure, it’s annoying when people do shit like that, but frankly, if you have to put down the has-been, smokin’, diet cokin’, fat bastard who once finished his Ironman in 16:59 (or was it 6:59?), maybe you need to just chill a little and let him have his “fantasy.” I just don’t see what the big deal is.

Steve,

Why do you care if I care if you care if he cares that she cares that I care? grin

I don’t really care - the example I wrote up was more speculation on what some people may encounter rather than an actual incident in my office. I was having fun letting some interesting trains of thought run through my head and out my hands to the keyboard. I think it is safe to say that lots of people (myself included) do care what other people think about them, or even what they PERCEIVE other people think of them.

If I care about what somebody thinks about me, then that means I can on some level care for that person. Caring for people is good.

Shit - late for a meeting. I can add more later about caring if this thread keeps going to eternity.

Todd

You all know - for supposedly not having a right to care about what other people do - there sure are allot of folks here who care what people think…I guess you can think what you want as long as you agree with them, otherwise you are an asshole…huh…

I don’t care if you care if I care… wait… I don’t care… shit… :slight_smile:

Frankly, I don’t care. I was just wondering why YOU seemed to care… or why Record seems to care. Fact is… we all care to some extent how people perceive us. I just think it’s sad that we have to belittle others (such as demeaning their IM experience because they only did one, and then went back to be a fat bastard) to make ourselves feel better about our own existences.

And I dont like one legged Jewish Eskimos from Miami…I HATE them
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My mind is spinning.

the interesting thing this brings up is that most people who even know the order of a ‘tri-ath-alon’ (Iron CLM, 04/05) only think in terms of distance. So you might race your guts out in an Oly, be sore for three days and come in with 2:15 and it garners no respect, because it is ‘short’. Most, though, have some idea of what an Ironman is, although weirdly in this part of the world that term is also used for surflifesaving competitions!

For a lot of people, Ironman IS triathlon, and that’s why you get some box tickers doing it. Still, 8:20 or 17:00, maximum respect to them all.

Considering an otter’s inability to use a computer…we all wish that your wish comes true in a speedy(less than 14 hours) fashion

Frank
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