What helmet is this? (Georgia, TT)

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/apr04/georgia04/stage4/cippo_TT.jpg
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don’t know…but that’s a sic looking set up he’s got going
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Look at pinkjersey.com- this might be one of the UCI-legal headfairings. It looks slightly familiar.

I said UCI-legal headfairing. I could have said “aero helmet”, but this is a headfairing that passes the rules.

Aren’t you the one that missed the UCI wheel crumple test?

SO, is the Las crono helmet on the pinkjersey site really UCI legal? How about USCF? http://www.pinkjersey.com/index.cfm?page=catalog&itemoid=9911

If so, does it come with docs to prove it is? That looks way more pimp than my LG aero.

Thanks!!

Why is he using 9 speed? Are those clinchers? SSM Regal saddle?

Man, why bother with all the pretty clothes when your bike is like Soooo 1998?

-SD

http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:6-uSAOfmd48J:www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp%3Fpk%3D6034+las+crono+professional&hl=en&start=3

Gruppo Sportif srl also announces for special order the **LAS **Crono Omologato and **Crono **Professional. While considered UCI approved for those important races against the clock, Omologato and Professional are not an approved shell by USA Cycling. Crono Omologato and **Crono **Professional are available in blue, carbon, and red finishes; Omologato is also available in white.

Gary

Thanks for the great info and the link.

You dissin’ on Cipo? Wow, what guts. :wink:

Sorry if this is too straight a response to a humorously intended post, but:

No, most of Mavic’s rims, clincher or tubular, have aluminum braking surfaces (Cosmic Carbones only have an carbon fairing, with an aluminum braking surface, and the disk has an aluminum braking surface). Mavic is working on an all-carbon Cosmic.

Most of the pro cyclists don’t ride on the lightest saddles, and a number still use the Rolls. More important to be comfortable than light, if you’re riding the kind of miles that they ride. Lance uses a titanium-railed Selle San Marco Concor, which is a basic design that dates back to the late '70s or early '80s (I saw them mounted on bikes back in '82).

Anyway, Mario isn’t much of a time trialist (except flat, short prologues), and the team may not feel that it’s worthwhile to use up their supply of DA10 on his TT bike.

yes yes, that is much too straight an answer. I was referring to the Specialized label on his tires. I’m aware of Mavic’s wheel construction.

I’m aware of pros having a preference for a particular model of saddle. Cipo does not have a long history with a Regal. Do you think Lance would be riding a Concor Light if USPS was sponsored by Selle Italia, Fizik, or anyone other than SSM?

-SD

What frame is he riding? I haven’t seen that model from Specialized before.

I’m aware of pros having a preference for a particular model of saddle. Cipo does not have a long history with a Regal. Do you think Lance would be riding a Concor Light if USPS was sponsored by Selle Italia, Fizik, or anyone other than SSM?

-SD

Interesting chicken-and-egg question. In Lance’s particular case, he could probably attract whatever saddle sponsor fit his needs and preferences (which he seems to be very reluctant to change, in terms of the human/machine interface - saddles, pedals, handlebar styles). Heck, he was able to get Shimano to design a pedal to meet his particular needs to avoid him using a 10-year old model. I do not remember the exact history, but I have a hunch got used to the Concor Light, then Selle San Marco has been agreeable to sponsoring whatever team he ended up on.

I also remember some teams using a variety of pedals back in the mid '90s, depending on rider preference. In particular, I’d see mixes of Shimanos and Looks on the same team. Even bikes are negotiable, but they’re much more easily disguised with some paint, such as Tyler Hamilton’s Parlee “Look” frame, not to mention his 2002 “Look” P3, although that wasn’t fooling anyone. I also remember Rebellin riding a most un-Klein-like frame when Gerolsteiner wase being sponsored by Klein. When Cyclingnews.com asked, the response from Klein was something to the effect of, “It’s, uhhh, a prototype; yeah, that’s it, a prototype!”

There are certainly many other cases of a rider’s favorite bike ending up in the paint job of his current sponsor.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/?id=2002/news/may01

If the rider is a star, and has some strong equipment preferences, the team usually will find some way or another to accommodate him.

Didn’t know about Cipo’s historical saddle choices, though.

Sorry if I didn’t display enough of a sense of humor earlier.

Regarding the pedals.

I’m sure Shimano wanted to help Lance, but the prospect of Lance lovers finding a pair of old Shimano pedals was slim, and Shimano didn’t have any to sell.

Now they’ve got lots of pedals to sell, and are doing very well doing so.

Yet another Chicken and Egg argument perhaps, but I’m sure it isn’t as simple as “Lance had Shimano make him a new pedal” Other things like threadless headsets and his “aero” AX brakes still puzzle me, same with his wheels, his 20,21,22,23 t cog combinations, and ever changing aerobars. The “I use what Lance uses” crowd is huge and offers huge incentives to the industry to produce what he uses.

-SD

at least the threadless headset thing has been explained. Shimano rarely if ever will pay a liscence to a competitor. Cane creek own the patent on threadless, so Shimano wont make one. Thank God they haven’t tried to come up with a proprietary system of their own (Probably requiring a special shimano HS, stem, HB and tape.

Then how do you explain the Look pedals they used for years?

I’ve seen a few Shimano Threadless headsets (Dura Ace and XT with no threads) on pro bikes. I agree that it is better for them to have left well enough alone and not come up with their own design, but it seems like Shimano could sell headsets.

Do King’s and Campy’s design encroach on Dia Compe’s patent? I didn’t think they did.

-SD

The shimano headsets you see on pro bikes are custom jobs, made from a threaded headset. They could sell plenty of headsets, but if the return on investment isn’t there because the licensing fees are prohibitive, why would they?

I thought that Campy, King, Ritchey, etc all paid royalties to Dia Compe, same as Syntace, Profile, etc paid royalties to ScottUSA.

I’m pretty sure that licensing looks pedal design convinced them not to do it again. They never sold a lot, compared to look and they like to be an innovator rather than a me too. I’m not absolutely positive but I think that king et al pay a fee to cane creek. The threadless Shimano HS aren’t shimaono per se, but modified threaded. Too bad about the willow , do you think it will be back, or is it gone forever?

ah…if only we ran the world.

It is too bad about Willow. Another course that lent itself to a fixed gear. The event is turn-key and the cycling saddlemen have offered to help. The road race I put on the “Cone Azalia Classic” was last Saturday. We had nice weather, but turn-out was only 120 or so. We lost $180 even after cutting the payout. In a 7 mile circut, 8 riders finished on the lead lap in the “A” race. It was insane. We’d hoped to include Willow as an opening TT with Cone and a criterium we’d have a little stage race.

Sadly it is alot of work, and I’m pretty lazy, so no stage race. Perhaps next year I’ll get off my butt and put it together.

-SD

Cane creek own the patent on threadless, so Shimano wont make one.

Which is very ironic considering that Cane Creek headsets are manufactured FSA - of course FSA probably manufactures upwards of 80% of the threadless headsets in use these days!

Michael