Yes…I am a chicken shit and didnt want to do it.
I still feel sick from the drugs and just got off of my 4 hours “lay flat”, I had some Viaca Versa (Doc’s please tell me the real name) episode where my HR dropped to less than 20bpm while they were pressing on me after they took out the “bananna” and the “boomerang”.
Turns out I have a collapsed artery in my arm/hand. Not thining clearly right now. My stomach is blue (from them cleaining me) and I feel like hell. I will post more later.
Vasovagal is the term you are thinking of…
Good luck with everything… as always feel free to email me with nay questions
best wishes for a quick and full recovery.
Yeah… A nurse told me I hit 8 bpm (must have been an estimation) before they got the right drugs in me to get me back to life one time…
But I was just getting prepared for my wisdom teeth and it was just because of my reaction to having an IV in me.
Angio… weebly jeeblies…
When you feel like a human being again… what happens now?
Vasovagal is the term you are thinking of…
Scarry…I heard* “his pulse is down to 40, now 30, Chip would you like a cold towel, 20…well, welcome back”…*I understand it is quite common???
good for you buddy. hope you feel better soon!
That would scare the living daylights out of me…Glad you made it.
Great work! At least now you’ve got a diagnosis, that’s progress.
Very common Chip - don’t worry (vaso vagal syncope that is). The vagus nerve has some powerful action! I pick up people (almost always young men) all the time in my office 
Actually, it was even more common with injections in the Army. So, when do you find out the results? Are your vascular buddies expecting some weird AV fistula or something?
I pick up people (almost always young men) all the time in my office.
… it was even more common … in the Army.
… Are your vascular buddies expecting some … fistula…
Why Rod, I had no idea!
Oddly enough I have seen it most often on young fit men as well. The last one that told me of his experience got .2mg of Glycopyrolate before they stuck the groin. Kind of tough to do during an IV start though. Why does it happen with young, fit people?
Nice paraphrasing Kai LOL!
Superman: yeah, I think it is a combination of things. First, young tough guys love to “internalize” things. When they are nervous inside, the vagus is firing, bradycardia, BP down and lights out! Just about the time they say something they are already gray and white, diaphoretic and going down. BP and resting HR is already low since they are fit and there isn’t much room for error. Women tend to squirm and even yell, but don’t try to hide the fact they don’t like needles - and they rarely go vagal (but when they do, it is worse - had one aspirate on me last year!)
Glad you had it done this time. So what do they do for a collapsed artery? Where was the Banana?
Viaca Versa - that’s their term for “minimal brain damage due to oxygen deprivation”. I could be wrong on that.
Good news is it’s done! Things are only looking up from here.
Good job manning up.
As an extra special bonus, The PI Committee has granted you a 24 hour Pissyness Index Exemption.
Have at it.
Chip
Glad you got it over with. And good to here your ok. Is Tracy there with you?
Doc
Why AV Fistula?
Glad to hear you finally got a diagnosis. I hope you can get the problem corrected and get better.
could have formed from biking in the aero position, then impeding flow to the digit/hand from the fistula as blood returns from the artery to the vein before it reaches the hand/finger
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Yikes! Man that’s some scary stuff. Chip, you’re too good a guy to have anything serious wrong with you. Take care and good luck with this.