Watch this dolphin man: Hill Taylor

watch and give what you think should be done in the swimming sport
should they change the laws or keep them the same
watch and leave your thoughts
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http://vitaminl.tv/video/1742

watch and give what you think should be done in the swimming sport
should they change the laws or keep them the same
watch and leave your thoughts
.
http://vitaminl.tv/video/1742

Ya, that video’s been around awhile, actually. FINA promulgated and keeps in place the “surface within 15 meters” rule to avoid issues with guys passing out and possibly dying from trying to hold their breath too long. This prob wouldn’t happen in a 50 but could in a 100. I have a friend who actually did pass out after swimming about 80 yds of underwater breaststroke in a U. of TN swim workout some yrs ago. The goal was to swim 100 breast underwater w/o breathing, and he made through 3 lengths but then passed out on his push-off on the 4th length. He was pretty lean so he sank and they had to drag him out of the bottom of the pool. His heart actually stopped beating for a short time but he was revived and obv lived to tell the tale. It was, however, the end of his collegiate swimming career. The irony of it all is that he wasn’t even a breaststroker but rather a sprint free/flyer.

Awesome video. His lower legs actually look like a fish’s fin. Zoooooom.

I thought the 15 meter rule was to make it more spectator friendly and to differentiate the strokes.

Remarkable! He took nearly a second off the current WR.
I don’t know how I feel about changing the rules. How long have they had the 15m rule?
Whats the rule in SCY’s?

I think USA swimming (was posted on here a while back I think) has strognly encouraged coaches to no longer do drills where you hold your breath for extended periods. I believe studies showed there was no significant physiological adaptation anyway. Your body didn’t learn to use oxygen more effciently or have high red blood cell count and an other useful benefit because you hold your breath. On the flip side, starving your brain of oxygen can defintiely cause brain damage if you pass out. Some kids have died.

I think it’s a good rule. Too much risk with no benefit.

It’s 15 m in SCY as well.

Incredible.

There’s a U18 kid on my daughters’ summer swim team who pushes that submerge rule to the limit - it’s pretty funny seeing him outrun the other swimmers underwater for almost the whole length of the pool, with all the opposing team and their parents watching him to see if he messes it up, then doing it again coming back down the pool and winning by a decent margin.

That was stupid.

That was stupid.

x2. Sort of like running the 110 high hurdles in Lane 1 but sprinting down the side and skipping every hurdle. Watch me cheat, DQ myself, and brag to everyone that I was the “winner” even though I did not follow the rules.

I thought the 15 meter rule was to make it more spectator friendly and to differentiate the strokes.

Ya, I’m sure that is part of it. Interestingly, I looked at the USA Swimming rules a few months ago and the 15 m rule is mentioned under free, back, and fly but not under breast, where it just says you can only take the stroke and a half with one dolphin kick. So, in theory I guess you could stay under for over 15 m if you were really strong off the walls.

I thought the 15 meter rule was to make it more spectator friendly and to differentiate the strokes.

Ya, I’m sure that is part of it. Interestingly, I looked at the USA Swimming rules a few months ago and the 15 m rule is mentioned under free, back, and fly but not under breast, where it just says you can only take the stroke and a half with one dolphin kick. So, in theory I guess you could stay under for over 15 m if you were really strong off the walls.
With the current breaststroke rule, it is very difficult to get to 15m, as the head must break the surface by the widest part of the second arm pull (no real pulling water on the stroke yet), and with the cycle being 1 arm pull than 1 breaststroke kick (where the dolphin kick comes somewhere in between the 2, if used, it is not a required element like the pull and breaststroke kick).
As to the history of the 15m rule, I believe it has been around since the 1990s. A lot of upper level swimmers are no longer coming very close to 15m in the higher levels of competition, I guess they’ve figured out that the need for oxygen during a race is greater than the speed gained during the underwater portion.

I thought the 15 meter rule was to make it more spectator friendly and to differentiate the strokes.

Ya, I’m sure that is part of it. Interestingly, I looked at the USA Swimming rules a few months ago and the 15 m rule is mentioned under free, back, and fly but not under breast, where it just says you can only take the stroke and a half with one dolphin kick. So, in theory I guess you could stay under for over 15 m if you were really strong off the walls.
With the current breaststroke rule, it is very difficult to get to 15m, as the head must break the surface by the widest part of the second arm pull (no real pulling water on the stroke yet), and with the cycle being 1 arm pull than 1 breaststroke kick (where the dolphin kick comes somewhere in between the 2, if used, it is not a required element like the pull and breaststroke kick).
As to the history of the 15m rule, I believe it has been around since the 1990s. A lot of upper level swimmers are no longer coming very close to 15m in the higher levels of competition, I guess they’ve figured out that the need for oxygen during a race is greater than the speed gained during the underwater portion.

Ya, agree with all you said. I certainly never come close to 15 m on any of the strokes, 10 m at the most, but I do enjoy the long underwaters:)

Hill Taylor was the fastest / most decorated backstroker in the field (good field though), swimming at his home pool at a small meet in a non-standard event… Almost all the guys were his teammates at UT, and afaik, everyone, including the officials, knew what he was doing. He certainly wasn’t bragging about beating the field after that. But going a 23.10 LCM 50 back… he might have been bragging (and rightly so) about that. Supposedly, Lochte went 22.9 in practice leading up to the 2012 olympics, but that was hand timed, and we have no video proof of it… Taylor gives us definitive proof with this swim.

If you don’t know anything about the situation, best stay on the sidelines.

So, this was all to get video proof that he is a talented underwater swimmer…as if that couldn’t be accomplished on youtube in a solo effort. Whatever.

I tried to do some fast underwater fly kick today and decided Hill Taylor must have really nice abs
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I tried to do some fast underwater fly kick today and decided Hill Taylor must have really nice abs

Ya, that plus super flexible feet/ankles. BTW, I think I’m going to aim for 1500 miles in the 2014 USMS FLOG. I’ll be coming in around 1340 mi for this yr, so going to try to go a notch higher:)

…BTW, I think I’m going to aim for 1500 miles in the 2014 USMS FLOG. I’ll be coming in around 1340 mi for this yr, so going to try to go a notch higher:)With all due respect (and worthy congratulations)… Eric, we need an intervention.

…BTW, I think I’m going to aim for 1500 miles in the 2014 USMS FLOG. I’ll be coming in around 1340 mi for this yr, so going to try to go a notch higher:)With all due respect (and worthy congratulations)… Eric, we need an intervention.

Don’t worry, I’m paying very close attention to my shoulders. The last thing I want is to get injured and I’ve improved my kicking, and do a lot more of it now, to take some of the load off the upper body. However, I doubt I’ll be getting down to the 1:03 for 5000 m that you’re aiming for:)

Watch “1988 Olympic Men’s 100m Backstroke final - Daichi Suzuki” on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oTlD6SuvNk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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