Was he pushed? Or, did he jump?

Check out the kid from the Peninsula; raising big bucks for the hurricane victims.

If he beats my Alcatraz PB I’m quitting this sport for good.

SAN FRANCISCO BAY

Boy, 9, takes last laps, cold showers before Alcatraz swim attempt

  • Steve Rubenstein, Chronicle Staff Writer
    Saturday, October 8, 2005

It was 62 degrees Friday in San Francisco Bay, just the right temperature for a good time.

Johnny Wilson, a 9-year-old boy who likes his water very cold, was getting in one final training swim before glory summons him Monday.

"This is nothing,‘’ he said, after taking a few strokes in the blustery, billowy bay just west of the St. Francis Yacht Club. "This is easy. This is just the way I like it.‘’

Johnny, a fourth-grader from Hillsborough, is trying to become the youngest person ever to swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco. It’s going to be easy, he said. Nothing to it.

"I like swimming in the bay,‘’ he said. "I like it when the waves crash down on you. I like the seals. The waves pick you up, and they drop you down. Bring it on!‘’

On Monday, the waves were picking him up and dropping him down quite a bit. It’s all good training, said his swim coach Rick Murray, who mentioned to Johnny a few months ago that he was surely a better swimmer than the 11-year-old boy who set the record in 1994. That got Johnny splashing harder than ever.

Then, two weeks ago, a 10-year-old girl established a new mark by making the 1.4-mile swim. Johnny and his parents figured he had to get his swim into the books before his next birthday, which is coming up in a few weeks, so he cranked up the training.

Johnny knows all the lore about Alcatraz. He knows that several escaping Alcatraz prisoners who managed to make it to the bay and then failed in their attempted swims to freedom were unprepared for the cold water, because the prison deliberately allowed them only hot showers.

"I take cold showers,‘’ Johnny said. "I like to see how cold I can stand it. It leaves you energized.‘’

On the shore, his beaming parents watched their son’s final training swim with clear eyes and just the slightest apprehension. His mom, Leslie, who was bundled up in her ski parka against the afternoon breeze while her son stood bare-chested, freely admits she worries about one thing in particular.

"Sharks,‘’ she said. "I always ask people if they’ve seen sharks. They tell me there haven’t been any shark sightings, but I keep looking anyway.‘’

On Monday morning, shortly after sunrise, Johnny will catch a boat to Alcatraz, jump off into the water at slack tide and swim back to Aquatic Park. He figures it will take a little less than an hour. Then, he will go to work collecting on the donation pledges – he’s trying to raise money for Hurricane Katrina victims, and he has already hit his friends up for $30,000 worth.

Anyway, Johnny said, swimming in the bay is tough work, but it really doesn’t take all that long to do it. The hardest thing he’s done lately, he said, is read the entire series of Harry Potter novels.

"I just finished the sixth one,‘’ he said. "They’re really long. That’s hard work. It’s not like swimming.‘’

E-mail Steve Rubenstein at srubenstein@sfchronicle.com.

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I hate kids!!!

You say this like there aren’t hundreds of nine year old swimmers that could trash most of here on this forum.

I couldn’t begin to keep up with that age group at our swim club.

I watched a 7 year old swim almost 4 miles in two hours in a pool. When you’ve watched a 10 year old break a minute for 100 yards of freestyle, or 1:15 for 100 yards of breaststroke (talking major pain), humility is given a whole new dimension. For 5 years I went to swim meets in Florida and was never disappointed by the quality of the swims by the kids. If you ever get a chance to go to a top USAS swim meet do it. It will forever change your understanding of our younger generation. Some of those kids must be aliens…

-Robert

A child will do anything if a support system is set up where he is praised for it… sad, but true…

That would be a great wave start wouldn’t it- me, and two hundred nine year olds. All I can say is they’d better not get in my way or I’m goin’ right over 'em :wink:

Yes, I agree. You caught the allusion in my post title.

My wife and I are really conflicted about pushing/leading our kids into organized sports. Both girls swim really well, (the older has a cleaner freestyle than 3/4 of the grown-ups in any masters group), but we’ve been reluctant to let them join the local swim club because we are afraid of the burn-out factor and potential overuse injuries. Then there’s also the selfish factor of not giving up our workouts to unrelenting practice and competiton schedules.

It’s a conundrum and we’re struggling to find the balance. Any suggestions? Any ST’ers that started a sport early only to find it became a chore? Or vice versa?

You would have to catch them first. Pick the right two hunderd nine year olds, and I would never find their feet.

Yahoo news just posted that he completed the swim in under 2 hours.

Want to see something even sadder? Dig around and find your state running records by age. In some states you’ll find records for marathon times by 7-year old’s! You know, that’s not just sad that’s sick.

Tim,

We let our daughter join a swim team at 9. She started out 2 days a week. At 10 we let her go 3 days a week. She still has other activities (dance, x-country) and we often get her out of practice to do other things (like dog classes). This way she doesn’t get burned out. Of course she can only swim a 28 50 free (she’s 11) but she has a blast and doesn’t get stressed out. The coaches wanted her to join the ‘gold’ group but we said no. Maybe when she’s 13. So far it’s not a chore and the people who are involved are great people (from the kids to the parents). Maybe 1 out of 25 parents are turds. We enjoy it so much I joined the board.

We just try to make sure family comes first. Part of our luck is our team isn’t massively gun-ho one competing at the highest level. They understand balance. Our team motto is EXCELLENCE. DEDICATION. TEAMWORK.

(We’re not just kids in matching suits)

Gives you an idea of a good team.

John

Tim,

We let our daughter join a swim team at 9. She started out 2 days a week. At 10 we let her go 3 days a week. She still has other activities (dance, x-country) and we often get her out of practice to do other things (like dog classes). This way she doesn’t get burned out. Of course she can only swim a 28 50 free (she’s 11) but she has a blast and doesn’t get stressed out. The coaches wanted her to join the ‘gold’ group but we said no. Maybe when she’s 13. So far it’s not a chore and the people who are involved are great people (from the kids to the parents). Maybe 1 out of 25 parents are turds. We enjoy it so much I joined the board.

We just try to make sure family comes first. Part of our luck is our team isn’t massively gun-ho one competing at the highest level. They understand balance. Our team motto is EXCELLENCE. DEDICATION. TEAMWORK.

(We’re not just kids in matching suits)

Gives you an idea of a good team.

John

You guys get it … I wish more did :frowning:

I’m blessed that the devil thinks we’re getting it! :slight_smile:

John

I’m blessed that the devil thinks we’re getting it! :slight_smile:

John
And hopefully others recognize that you do as well :slight_smile:

good for him, but i really dis-like human interest stories like that.

Tim,

I started swimming when I was 8. My parents got tired of taking my brother and I to seperate baseball fields every weekend. Within two years I was breaking age-group records and by the time I was 12, I was swimming at the national level. I continued to swim at that level all through High School (All-American), Won my CCS (Northern CA Championship) in the 50 free…20.8 and recieved a college scholorship. I could have never got there had my parents taken this over the top touch-feely approach, oh…lets not hurt their self esteem… crap… and only let me workout a few days a week. If your child has talent …go with it. So many parents now a days are afraid to be F***ing PARENTS…you are not thier best friends …stop trying to be and be a freaking PARENT. Parents are supposed to expect/want the best from thier kids. If the kids know they have a weak sister as a parent…they will never push themselves.

Mark

Mark,

If my child has the talent then I would push them. If they don’t what’s the point? As a parent you help them find “things” they are good at and help them become as good as they can at least regarding outside school activities. Anything to do with school though is: push them hard and keep pushing.

IMHO my job as a parent is to produce the best person I can. Making someone a great “swimmer/dancer/etc” is nice. But making the next great scientist/engineer/leader, now that’s something.

Glad you did well in your swimming and glad your parents pushed you. It’s good you appreciate it. Being a parent and knowing what the “right” thing to do isn’t always easy.

J

He was just on CNN with his coach. He sounds like a typical 9 year old kid, and is making it sound like his parents were supportive without being pushy, and always concerned first and foremost with his safety and well being.

you don’t want to get your kids involved because of your own workout schedules?

IMO, don’t let your own workout schedules be a main reason why your kids aren’t involved. individual sports like swimming are good for developing mental toughness, strength, and confidence. team sports provides those things too, plus working and valuing others. they don’t have to be involved to a crazy extent, but swimming in an organized format a through week could be really good for them in many ways. hopefully you can find a format in which it doesn’t have to be all gung ho (like swimming 2 a days, 25,000 meters + in a week or whatever). something with a regular racing program in the winter, and swim club through summer with only a few meets.

and let them decide how much they want to participate–they can choose themselves if you provide the opportunity.

good luck–hats off to all you parents!!

That would be a great wave start wouldn’t it- me, and two hundred nine year olds. All I can say is they’d better not get in my way or I’m goin’ right over 'em :wink:

I was in an off road tri a few weeks ago (Trail Shark, the same org that puts on Tri Shark, an awesome race and set up). In the first wave, I settled into the swim between two small packs of 5 or 6. In the last 200m of the swim, with no one around, some guy hits my foot–again–and again–and again. So I’m thinking what’s up, it’s not as if we’re jockeying for position to get to a buoy or pick a line at a mass start. So I give a few pretty huge kicks, and I don’t feel the guy again.

Then he passed me, and it was some 50 lb. 11 yr old kid (the start WAS 34-under men). I felt so bad, I just hoped his mom or some marshal wasn’t going to slap me or something when I got out of the water. Then the kid couldn’t sight too good, and started veering way off course, but I couldn’t just cut him off, so I swam some extra yards behind him to pay for my sins.

(BTW, he was on his dad’s bike or something, and I ended up getting to tell him nice swim when I lapped him on the bike course. And then when he raced by me about a mile into the run – like a f-ing kangaroo – he didn’t really look back. For what it’s worth, he was having a ball.)

Ah, youth.