Thus he is either 1) incredibly ineffecient, undertrained or has bad coach or 2) doesn’t have a 78 VO2 max.
So no, based on his performance I don’t think he has a 78 VO2 max.
LOL! This is what happened last time I posted this with Paulo leading the charge! Good times. I don’t think you can compare the performance of an AG guy with a full time job who runs far less than an elite marathoner as they also bike and swim no matter what their VO2 is. I think you can have a wide diversion in times and to try and draw a tighter correlation is difficult at best.
Thus he is either 1) incredibly ineffecient, undertrained or has bad coach or 2) doesn’t have a 78 VO2 max.
So no, based on his performance I don’t think he has a 78 VO2 max.
LOL! This is what happened last time I posted this with Paulo leading the charge! Good times. I don’t think you can compare the performance of an AG guy with a full time job who runs far less than an elite marathoner as they also bike and swim no matter what their VO2 is. I think you can have a wide diversion in times and to try and draw a tighter correlation is difficult at best.
I go with #1 minus the coach part because I don’t know his coach. Bryan sucks and got to Kona via the lottery.
Wow, I’m amazed at all the things a person can find to criticize about a test.
Being your mom was an age-group record holder at Kona we might as well bring genetics into the mix.
Use of AeT? Why don’t you go review the response you got from your question to Alan Couzens about Ironman training on Gordo’s site?
Is that your way of saying that you dont know? You are going to have to refresh my memory because I don’t remember asking Alan anything about AeT, I remember asking him a question about his “base training and intervals” post at endurance corner once. In fact I didn’t know Alan uses such term since he his posts are usually so exercise physiology oriented (Gordo, OTOH). Anyway, you mentioned on this thread that it is helpful to know your “AeT”, I am just curious to know why do you think that?
Wow, I’m amazed at all the things a person can find to criticize about a test.
Being your mom was an age-group record holder at Kona we might as well bring genetics into the mix.
I actually found her old results. In 1989 she finished in 11:20:54, 1st in W45-49, the the age of 47:
Swim- 1:22:56
Bike- 6:06:55
Run- 3:51:02
How about that run!!! I bet you no one would challenge her VO2!
I have also had my VO2 change over the years but by 2mils only from 76 tp 78. I am no olympic athlete but where I get tested through the military they test olympic rowers and my values are bigger. I also had an ECG which showed I have an enlarged left ventricle, which combined with a 11 stone 5 body weight helps get such a result, however boimechanics, efficiency and the ability to process lactic acid at a higher intensity are lacking!!! hence i’m rubbish!! ha ha !!
All you have to do is look at any big triathlons result to find what you say is true. Some athletes will dominat the run others the bike others the swim. Obviously each athlete has one VO2 max (if tested by one protocal). If training and VO2 max were all that mattered shouldn’t most triathletes be pretty even compared to there peers when they compete in all three events? Particularly the elites, who presumably train alot.
All you have to do is look at any big triathlons result to find what you say is true. Some athletes will dominat the run others the bike others the swim. Obviously each athlete has one VO2 max (if tested by one protocal). If training and VO2 max were all that mattered shouldn’t most triathletes be pretty even compared to there peers when they compete in all three events? Particularly the elites, who presumably train alot.
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No because it come down to specificity, especially at the elite level more so then the amateur level. Its pretty easy for an amateur to be equivalent in all three sports. If they are in the 30th percentile they may just be training all sports fairly equily. However at the pro level an extra 4 hours a week on one sport could be the difference in 5th in the run or 15th.
Also if you look at the Pro field compared to the amateur field normally, the pros are pretty even compared to a group of amateurs.
I remember the 1st thread, and the “advice” in this one is similar. I think what the smart guys are trying to tell you (certainly in the 1st thread), is that the VO2 measurements that you have had taken are not accurate. You have said something similar to this the variability is somewhat constant, so the changes are accurate]. If the system is not producing accurate results, you cannot come to the conclusion that the test-to-test results would be skewed in the exact same way and direction. You asked before, and are now asking, how you should change your training protocols based upon numbers, which all of the experts agree, are not/cannot be accurate.
If you posted only the last paragraph of your OP, looking for info on how performance changes with age, I think that you would have received more of the info that you were actually looking for.
I am certainly no expert in this area (not even a novice), but I would glean from the threads that I have read, that you would be better off doing a hard 5 or 10K run/race, and a hard 40K bike every few months in order to more accurately gauge your fitness improvements. And then adjust your targets based upon that information, and not VO2 tests that have “questionable” accuracy.
If your goal is to improve your performance, forget about your VO2, and measure your performance directly. If your race results or training benchmarks are improving, why are you worried about your VO2 numbers and HR?
I don’t think you can compare the performance of an AG guy with a full time job who runs far less than an elite marathoner as they also bike and swim no matter what their VO2 is. I think you can have a wide diversion in times and to try and draw a tighter correlation is difficult at best.
You are going to have to refresh my memory because I don’t remember asking Alan anything about AeT, I remember asking him a question about his “base training and intervals” post at endurance corner once. In fact I didn’t know Alan uses such term since he his posts are usually so exercise physiology oriented (Gordo, OTOH). Anyway, you mentioned on this thread that it is helpful to know your “AeT”, I am just curious to know why do you think that?