Vineman and aquabike report

Overall a great race and very well organized…not too many people at all. The morning was perfect. The swim was about 73-74 degrees and calm…could get a personal best on the swim.
I got about a 1:05 and marg was the fastest women to exit the water at about 1:02. Could stand the whole swim which was nice if you needed to adjust goggles or anything.

The bike was definitely challenging, but a disc was worth it. Thanks to everyone who recommended it last week. We come from Northern LA County and the hills were more than we expected, but nothing too bad. Chalk hill is a killer the 2nd time. Finished the bike in about 6 hours and marg finished the aquabike in about 8 hours total with the swim…back problems.

The BAD bit about the aquabike is no finish or congrats or medal…nothing at all. 200-300 dollars and just a walk inro transition.

Dave and Russ need to sort this bit out!!!

On to the run…great great 3 loop course coming back to the high school. Very challenging with lots of steep hills. Brought me in for a finish at 11:42!!! I am stoked to break 12 hours on my 1st ever ironman distance race…thanks to everyone that volunteered and organized a great event.

No compliants except aquabike finish was disheartening.

Great weather and great race. Cant wait for the slide show at the awards today.

IronCLM (cathy) great to finally say hello to you…quick but maybe nextime you can meet glyn now. Congrats on your race too.

marg and glyn

Congrats on the finishing with a great time. Vineman is a great race and a great course. Skip the awards show and go wine tasting.

I’m a bit surprised you were surprised by the hills in No Cal coming from North LA County, which is what - Calabasas? That’s pretty comparable.

I did the 1/2 aquabike (or is it a 57.2 :). Overall, the experience was good. After too many failed rounds of achilles rehab, it was nice being able to race again without a DNF or a long walk. I hope USAT continues to promote these events.

I did feel like 3rd fiddle compared to everything else going on that day (full/barbs), but I kinda expected that. Our welcome was “rack your bike and get the hell out of the way”. Not a big deal for me though. Afterall, I am there to race–not collect a trinket.

One annoyance was some of the ambiguity on the course. Some of the 1/2 aquabike people did the out-and-back section of the course, while others did not. According to the pre-race meeting, I believe out-and-back section was only for the full racers? (Those that did the out-and-back were up around 58 miles on the bike, so I am pretty sure we were not supposed to do it.)

Also, the turn into the finish was not quite clear since all volunteers assumed men are doing the full vineman. A lot of us blew by the finish and had to turn around. Some signs could have prevented this. Example: 1/2 aquabike finish here!

Overall, I enjoyed my first vineman experience.

marg–Yes, great to finally meet you!! And Kenney (and Jodie) and cottell (Jeromy) and his lurking wife. :wink:

My day was good, except for flat tire #1 at mile 5 of the bike and flat tire #2 at mile 50 of the bike. At least it gave me practice in contingency planning and dealing with a change in race plans. Swim was a PR swim for me; run was either a PR run or very close to it. Even with the two flats and a lot of lost time (26 minutes), I was 9th out of 17 in the AG, so I’m happy with that. Of course, if I’d raced Athena, I’d have been second and might have come home with a bottle of wine. But I can’t complain since I won an Ironman Wetsuit at the race meeting! THANKS DAVE, RUSS AND IM WETSUITS!!!

What made the race day though was prior to the race and during the race I heard so many times, “Are you the one who won the wetsuit? You are SUCH an inspiration!” Totally fun weekend. I had planned to go back to the last run aid station with my clubmates, but my little friends that i was staying with had a little birthday dinner for me and after beer #3, that plan went out the window.

clm

PS–And yes Dave, there was a shitload of coke on the run course. Now, if we can do something about toilet paper at the swim start… :wink:

Yeah english muffin and I made it to Korbel before the awards this morning and scored some celebritory champagne and some for later in the year…good fun.

The slideshow was awesome…great photos and moments captured!!! Not many people stayed for the awards though…some missed that bike frame!!!

Hey all. Congrats to everyone else that raced this past Sat. It was really nice to meet up with Kenny and the famous Cathy. Sorry I didn’t catch up wtih anyone else new, but I’m sure our paths will cross later.

Well Sat was my first IM attempt. I had “raced” the Half Vineman last year, so it was just a matter of getting around the course twice. I got to the race start nice and early since my wife was helping with the body marking. This allowed me to get a spot on the rack that was just off the center isle so I could stay on the carpet layed down over the dirt/gravel. But it also allowed plety of time to contemplate what I was about to do to myself.

The swim went just fine. There was a little bumping at the very beginning, but it got sorted out pretty quickly. Unfortunatly I found myself without much company, so I had no draft to follow for much of the swim. Still I came out faster than I had expected at 1:08.

I took my time in T1 drying off and getting ready to bike out. Luckly there was no marine layer on Sat, but it was still a bit chilly. Thankfully I had my thin arm-warmers and the toe covers that I bought the day before.

So I was not more then 5 miles into the bike when I hit the nastiest, stupid pot-hole that was hidden in the shadows. Luckly I didn’t flat, but my disk took a pretty solid hit, and I felt my seat move. I thought that my seat might have slid down, but the post was still on the right mark. I didn’t figure out until afterward that the nose of the seat had tilted upward, which explained the added discomfort down-below after the race. As for the wheel, it started to make a loud, high-pitched squeaking noise from the hub as I pushed on the cranks. That damn noise, as well as a few others that would come and go, continued for the entire ride. Neadless to say, I lost the element of surprise on anyone that I was trying to overtake.

Dispite the noise, I felt great on the bike. Maybe a little too great. I managed to pass a number of people that I gave up time to in the water, while only letting a few behind me get by. By the time I was on my second lap, I maybe saw 4 racers, as well as a few straglers from the Barb’s race. During the last 30 miles, the sun came out and we headed back into a bit of a head-wind. So the speed started to drop a bit, but I managed to polish off the bike in 5:41. I was really surprised to find only a handfull of bikes in T2, but tried not to think to much about it.

And off running I went. I started with a nice and comfortable 8 min/mile, and quickly went downhill from there. By the end of the first lap, I was stopping at every aid station and barely getting in 10 min/miles. The second lap was the worst. I had sevearly underestimated the hills on the marathon course, and by this point was walking more than I was shuffling. I finished the second loop 3 hours after I started the run. I finally turned to downing cokes in hopes that my legs would come back, which they did enough to let me walk/shuffle in for a blazing 4:52 marathon.

Overall, I am thrilled with posting an 11:52 IM on my first try, which was thanks to the 11th(?) fastest bike split of the day. I managed to stay out of the med tent, and only had a slightly agravated IT band, and small blister on my little toe, and a very sore taint to deal with.

So up next is IMAZ. Maybe I should practice some pacing on the bike, no?

Jeromy

hey jeromy, was that you that passed me on the bike? were you riding a renn disc? If thats you I was racked right next to you in transition with the p3 and the javelin top. the race was pretty awesome eh? my legs are nearly back to 100% now but my knee is still giving me grief, too much running on that final hill! good race, see you at arizona

Very good race as it always has been. Although I had one of my slowest finishing times, my training buddy called it my greatest performance ever. He too put out his greatest performance ever and went 12th overall with a 11:05, and also verified some new theories we had worked on this year.

My challenge actually began June 21st. Was coming into top form when I crashed and broke my collarbone in two. Started walking within days, riding a trainer in week two. Week four saw the first swimming (just kick sets and one-arm back, breast and free). Started thinking maybe I can do it!

At 4 1/2 weeks, the ortho cleared me for above-the-shoulder activities with pain as my limiter. The x-ray showed calcification across the gap. This put me at three weeks to go to the race. Then did three long rides, 60, 70, and 80. Two long runs, 15 and 18. And swam the best I could. Had to modify my stroke since I couldn’t reach and pull with the left arm much. It was basically just along for the ride. Did a one hour open water swim in Lake Mead near the end of this “build.”

Drove up to Santa Rosa from Vegas on Wednesday. The next day went for an easy spin on the run course. After a couple miles, it happened. The right hamstring completely cramped up. Stopped and tried stretching it out. Rode a couple more miles and had to stop. Not good. Then the left one went also. I had this happen in early June. Happens after a lot of training followed by a pause where there is no cycling. When they go, they are gone for the day. It is too painful to pedal. Would probably tear something anyway. Two days to go, great. Spoke that night with my girlfriend who is a USAT coach. Told her I had to try and ride 20 on Friday. So, in the morning, sat in a hot bath for about 20 minutes trying to warm and stretch them out. Was a beautiful day around 10 in the morning. Only got about a mile into the ride when the left one locked up again. Tried to stretch it out on the side of the road. Again and again. Rode maybe 4 miles. At least it was only one of the hamstrings. Something positive anyway.

Went back to the Motel6. Organized my run gear for the drop-off and went to the registration. My buddy and his wife then showed up after driving in from Reno. Told them I had some big problems. Went to the massage tent where I met my angel in the form of Jenny. Told her my situation. She gave me a 20 minute session on the left hamstring (she also had crashed before, on Faught rd., and broke her collarbone too so knew exactly where I was coming from). She said the hamstrings where extremely tight. She then told me what to do on race morning. Get there early and in your warm-up suit, do a dry-land warm-up routine. An easy mile of jogging and walking then very light stretching. Then get in the water early and warm-up for the swim. During the swim go as easy as possible but the last thousand, go to a 6 beat kick in order to get blood into the hamstrings. Then after reaching the ramp to get out, she said DO NOT run out. Just walk out and go to your bike. Then walk the bike up the rise to the flat start before clipping in. Then spin as easy as possible on the flats before you get to Sunset. She said I had 5 miles to work with before I got to the first little climbs. I needed to gradually warm-up the hamstrings before that point or else, game over.

Well, I followed her advice to the letter. I knew if I can just get 10 miles into it, I was ok. So it was but I held back whenever I felt anything in the hamstrings. On lap two, was able to start riding better as the sun came out and the temperature warmed up. Passed maybe 40 or so on the second lap. Came into T2 in pretty good shape, just very stiff since I rode pretty much the entire way on the drops (I had to ride as safely as possible; a crash would easily re-break the bone). Started running slowly. Told myself, don’t worry, the first lap is only a warm-up. You’ll feel better on the second. Well, still didn’t have much form for the second so told myself, the second is another warm-up lap. By the third lap, the “warm-ups” were over, and it was just basically “Gut-it-out” time. It seemed to take everything I had just to keep from walking. I told myself to just run as slow as I can between aid stations, then take a 30 second break to re-fuel. Just don’t walk. With 6 miles or so to go, a 12 minute pace keeps you moving. If you start walking at 18 minute pace, you will give a lot of time back. My goal at this point was to at least break 13 hours. I had to show a little pride out there.

Normally, I don’t drink coke until 2 miles to go, for the “End Game.” With 4 to go, I was falling apart. I told myself, you don’t have much game left so be smart. The end game then began. Started the coke. Within a half mile, it started to kick in and was able to run again. Stayed with another runner for a couple miles before the coke started wearing off. Got to the last station, the last coke, and ran it home. 12:52:29. Was spent. After 9 IMs, this one took the most out of me. My buddy had finished almost 2 hours before so his wife had plenty of time to take care of his needs. Now it was my turn. They were great. They had my warm-up suit ready, had collected all my stuff, got me some food. Awesome.

Thanks to all the vollunteers. I tried to thank each and everyone. I believe I succeded. Even thanked the police officers as rode by. And thanks again to Jenny.

Again, a great race. But I do recommend some changes. This was my 6th consecutive Full Vineman. The roads! They are not getting any better. Particularly, Faught rd. The only time my collarbone hurt the entire race was while riding. The jarring and vibrations from the road would travel up the arm into the bone. So had to always keep light pressure on the left grip so as to have a shock absorber. Why not re-route the bike course avoiding the worst parts? You could put some more out-and-back sections in to compensate.

Congratulations to all

Conrad

muffin man,

ya, that was me. You and the other guy in the javelin top really kept me going during the first lap of the bike. Too bad I couldn’t hold you off during the “run”. :wink:

Congrats on no longer being an IM virign as well. I am looking forward to seeing what I can do in April.

Jeromy

Good to see you enjoyed the bike, I heard that wheel squeaking and yes, indeed there was no way that you were going to supprise anyone with that attack, is the wheel rolling round still or is the wheel not rolling smooth? The run was definately painfull but after the second lap was done it felt great to be running that hill for the last time.

Arizona should be a great course, I did SOMA half last year and loved the flatness, no hills, also the bike was pancake flat so I just cancelled florida and am planning the assault on arizona, its going to be a great race over there as there will be a small group of us doing it so it always ups the ante to race against people you recognise.

see you in april. oh yeah I captured the whole thing on my polar watch and you can see the hills perfectly on the altitude gains, you can also see that the altitude gain on chalk hill was about the same as the gain on canyon road, just canyon road seemed much longer!!!

Have fun at the races, are you doing malibu or LA or chicago or SOMA?

I am pretty sure the wheel is still fine. I mean the noise would dissapear if I coasted. I need to open the hub up and see whether it needs to be replaced.

Right now I am contemplating on LA, but definitely doing the Las Vegas tri. I might try to squeze in another short-course race before the end of the year. It should be fun to go full out on a sprint/Oly race with this hugh base that we have built up.

Jeromy

Conrad–way to stick it out and finish! Nice job!

And Jeromy–great race!

clm

Thanks Cathy

Will be pulling for you in Kona.

Conrad