I bought my P2 9 years ago. I have completed 5 Ironman races on it (a full every other year) and several more 70.3s. I also ride it on the Kickr during the winter. I ride about 4000 miles a year on the full years and about 2000 miles on the off years. So total miles around 25,000 miles on the frame and forks. I’m not super easy on the bike I weigh about 230 pounds. I’ve broken a set of hollow tech ultegra cranks and just broke the non drive side crank arm off my SRAM carbon cranks. I tend to be a masher and lay down a lot of power. That isn’t meant to be a brag. I’m just wondering if I’ve gone through 2 crank sets how much fatigue has the frame seen? Anyway what do you guys think? Should I proactively replace the bike? It doesn’t owe me a thing. It’s been an awesome bike. If I was going to get a new bike, what should I get?
I have over 50k miles on my Chinese carbon road frame. I put more than that on an old Klein Quantum… plus I crashed it several times. It did need a new fork, but still.
Aluminum and steel parts are subject to fatigue, but carbon is different. Yield and ultimate strength are about the same, and there is no defined fatigue limit. If it didn’t have defects when manufactured (they surely would have showed up before now) and you never exceeded yield, then it’s probably fine. At any rate I never replace stuff because of age or mileage.
I have 54k miles(2,000,000 kJ) between my 2 cervelos(road('15 S3) and TT('14 P3)) I wouldn’t even think about fatigue being an issue on either of them. only reason to change is desire for something…“new” I’d guess a 75/25 split with S3 having more and all the winter trainer duty(5 months out of 12)
My 2003 Trek 5200 (US Postal edition, no less) was my main road bike until a couple years ago. No idea how many miles, but a LOT. For the last couple of years it’s been my main trainer mule, so it now gets flogged mercilessly on Zwift, which is an even harder existence for that poor bike. I’ve replaced all the components several times over, but the frame itself will probably still be going strong long after I’ve stopped riding.
I got 30k miles out of my first giant tcr. Only replaced because my heel would occasionally hit the chain stay during pedaling and eventually it rubbed through haha
I’m still riding a 2003 Cervelo P2K. I live near Houston with very high humidity, everything either rusts, corrodes or is covered in mildew. I actually had my first breakdown with this bike a few weeks ago, the bottom bracket wore out. I can’t tell you how many miles I’ve put on it but I’ve been doing HIM distance for a large portion of that time.
I’ve had 2 Chinese frames and they both lasted10k miles … derailer hanger broke on both
Don’t throw out the frames because of this (or just ship them to me)! Derailleur hangers are designed to break, to keep from breaking the actual derailleur, and can generally be replaced for $15-$20.
I’ve had 2 Chinese frames and they both lasted10k miles … derailer hanger broke on both
Don’t throw out the frames because of this (or just ship them to me)! Derailleur hangers are designed to break, to keep from breaking the actual derailleur, and can generally be replaced for $15-$20.
Not if you own a Felt Tri bike…at least that is how my Felt is constructed (non-replaceable derailleur hanger).
Please tell me you’re being sarcastic! I was contemplating a felt as my next tri bike for next season, but that’s a total deal breaker for me. Maybe it’s the mountain bike racer in me, but I feel super uncomfortable buying a bike in which the part that’s intended to break can’t be replaced.
I’ve had 2 Chinese frames and they both lasted10k miles … derailer hanger broke on both
Don’t throw out the frames because of this (or just ship them to me)! Derailleur hangers are designed to break, to keep from breaking the actual derailleur, and can generally be replaced for $15-$20.
Not if you own a Felt Tri bike…at least that is how my Felt is constructed (non-replaceable derailleur hanger).
Which one do you own? My FELT has a replaceable hanger…
Not sarcastic for my Felt (2012 B12). At least it appears to me to be a non-replaceable one. But can’t speak for the newer models though (IA, current B series and whatever they have left for the DA line).
I was contemplating a felt as my next tri bike for next season, but that’s a total deal breaker for me.I am pretty sure that this is the norm for most triathlon bikes-- horizontal dropouts without a separate derailleur hanger. Not just Felt, but many brands. However, I think the new Felt IA Disc brake models (thru axles) do have replaceable derailleur hangers, so that could be a reason to buy a Felt.