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What principal are you standing on? Isnt it more on west coast RD’s not bidding for it than anything?

Were you at nationals 12 years ago when it was last on west coast?

Nope, from what USAT has told me, it is USAT who has to take make the effort to get a city to be involved. The RD is after this.

Yep, I did both the Tri Nationals when they were last on the west coast.

Yeah to cutting down the number eligible not necessarily 1000 vs 2000 but increasing the qualification requirements. If it’s harder to go, my view is, faster athletes would be more likely to show up as it’s seen as bigger achievement.

I just don’t see qualifying as a big achievement with how easy it is to get in. It should be difficult since it’s nationals. But if it does cut down their participant numbers then it’s a whole different scenario when USAT has to pitch it to cities to host with less people.

I just don’t think the everyone gets to go to nationals methodology is the best way to move AG racing forward.

Not my thinking. I do not care how tough the competition is, just too much money. And if they doubled the entry fee, Nah no one would complain

Yeah to cutting down the number eligible not necessarily 1000 vs 2000 but increasing the qualification requirements. If it’s harder to go, my view is, faster athletes would be more likely to show up as it’s seen as bigger achievement.

I just don’t see qualifying as a big achievement with how easy it is to get in. It should be difficult since it’s nationals. But if it does cut down their participant numbers then it’s a whole different scenario when USAT has to pitch it to cities to host with less people.

I just don’t think the everyone gets to go to nationals methodology is the best way to move AG racing forward.
I agree with you about it being easy… but I race with some people that don’t qualify and their perspective is different. They’d love to qualify and even then, they “might” go to Nationals.

I try to remember that we all have different perceptions… my reality is that I’ve qualified for Nationals in all but the first two races when I got into triathlon back in 2009. Me qualifying at this point means me finishing a race without getting a flat. Some of my tri friends, them qualifying means they had the race of their lives sometimes.

They need the numbers and honestly I feel the spread is there with those that are competitive and those that are in the 2:20 plus crowd. I do think numbers are down this year due to a few things… 70.3 Worlds in the US coming up, Omaha isn’t super exciting for many, Worlds next year is Australia.

I like Omaha and I’m excited the weather is looking cool, maybe even wetsuit legal!

I qualified at a race where I got a flat…

As for the West Coast / East Coat discussion. The races need to be where its “easy” to get to and it doesn’t conflict with “Major Events”. For example - They hit Du Nats perfectly for 2018. Easy airport for lots of people and drive-able distance for a TON of people. Weekend is perfect as it aligns with a lot of school spring breaks, cheap, but “decent chain hotels”. Doesn’t conflict with races such as AZ DU or Fly-by-Night.

Cleveland also seems good. Easy airport, drivable for lots of people, plenty of hotels, low cost city, early enough to not conflict with kids school (other than a very few in the south), not to many conflicting events.

So USAT needs to go to cities and sell why said city + RD needs to bid on it? Is that the catch for west coast cities?

In essence west coast cities don’t see value in bidding essentially. is it from not seeing value/USAT not showing it?

Or just not interested in the process?

So USAT needs to go to cities and sell why said city + RD needs to bid on it? Is that the catch for west coast cities?

In essence west coast cities don’t see value in bidding essentially. is it from not seeing value/USAT not showing it?

Or just not interested in the process?

It is any cities this is the process. Whether no west coast city has been interested, or USAT has not put the effort into find one, no idea, just the end results
is nothing in 12 years now.

I’m asking, are cities complaining that USAT hasn’t come to them to showcase why they should host OR are RD’s in the west coast not gone to their cities and showing why they should bid.

So I was asking why you specifically were boycotting as it deals with this issue. Like what issue your actually boycotting. So is it a USAT issue or west coast issues not wanting to bid.

I’m asking, are cities complaining that USAT hasn’t come to them to showcase why they should host OR are RD’s in the west coast not gone to their cities and showing why they should bid.

So I was asking why you specifically were boycotting as it deals with this issue. Like what issue your actually boycotting. So is it a USAT issue or west coast issues not wanting to bid.

I am not boycotting. I just cannot afford the cost to fly to these things. Now, I might break this rule and fly to the DU nationals next year since it was so much fun, and try to qualify for multisport TeamUSA Spain.

Also - they can hardly give those slots away, so I’m sure they were more than happy to accommodate the OP, to get another warm, paying body participating in the race.

I’ve qualified the last 6 years but I never go, wonder what % of qualified athletes don’t go?

Huge I expect, but no big deal.

Until USAT brings Tri Nationals back to the west coast, it will have been 12 years, I will just stay home out of principal. I spend way too much money on this sport
already, …

Tell you what - we’ll share a spot. I’ll do all the Midwest events I can drive to and you do the west coast ones. I’m very excited for Cleveland!

I agree with the timing. I had the same complaint a couple times with worlds they throw nationals 2-4 weeks before which can make it hard to travel/Peak etc. I know they don’t want to put it too early in the year. But they could do a lot better on timing some years.

I think oregons was in June which was a good time.

Agree on timing. But cost and convenience were terrible.