University of Miami athletics - ouch

Can it get any worse??? This hasn’t been a good year. Embarrassing for us who graduated from there, and even more for those of us who were athletes there.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/sfl-118umterps,0,2558322.story?coll=orl-sports-headlines

I was going to start a thread about “Big East v. ACC” after the fallout of the ACC “stealing” Miami and VT (and FSU falling), and Rutgers, WV, and Louisville rising to the top. I thought it might be viewed as in poor taste (b/c of the murder), but since you started it …

I remember thinking that it would be the death of the Big East and that the ACC may rival the SEC in terms of quality teams. It hasn’t worked out that way … at least this year.

Miami is what it is. It has always recruited the same type of player. They’ve always had fights , etc … but the teams have won and it’s been overlooked. It’s sort of been the “baby elephant in the room”. I’d like to see Miami re-emrge as an elite team, b/c the Miami-FSU rivalry (when both are good) is good for football.

I thnk the comparison between discipline of the Miami players and the Florida International players shows that Miami isn’t really all that serious about changing its image, its style, or its recruiting philosophy. The other shoe has dropped.

The death of the lineman is sad and unfortunate, and I am cautious about piling on Miami following this tragety.

I think we have more than our fair share of scandals in the past and with past players…

the Pell Grant issue in the early 90’s… Marlin Barnes… Ray Lewis…

I’ve said a little bit on here in the past about my experiences in athletics. I can’t help but feel like no one wants to touch the goose that lays the golden eggs at UM. Same applied to the individual players themselves. My impression was that football was the end-all-be-all cash cow, and as long as they won, it didn’t matter what happened or what they players did. But now, there’s no winning. No national ranking. No bowl game. and no recourse??

-If you are upset that the team will play this weekend. I don’t see why, this often happens in athletics. The team voted on it and, truth be told, he probably would have wanted it.
-If you think it adds to the “thug” image well, so far, nothing has been found to make that claim. The latest I have seen they have no reason for the shooting.

-This point was going to be about you including the whole athletic department, but after looking at fall sport standings Miami’s athletics are a joke, they are terrible in every fall sport. Wow.

I don’t care about them playing this weekend… I think they ought to.

UM traditionally has excellent athletics as far as football, diving, and baseball are concerned. The year I graduated they were national champs in both football and baseball. No school is good at every sport.

But, yes, it is the thug reputation that concerns me. Well, I think it is beyond a ‘reputation’…

I don’t care about them playing this weekend… I think they ought to.

UM traditionally has excellent athletics as far as football, diving, and baseball are concerned. The year I graduated they were national champs in both football and baseball. No school is good at every sport.

But, yes, it is the thug reputation that concerns me. Well, I think it is beyond a ‘reputation’…

Ok, but how does his death add to this when their is zero that says (at least that I have seen) that he was involved in something untoward?

Neither was Marlin Barnes, but it certainly gives a bad impression of the school when players are continually murdered… or arrested… or driving drunk… or whatever. i’m just saying that UM needs to do some serious PR and start running a tighter ship.

i do have a hard time believing that he was just randomly, spontaneously murdered - considering that his car wasn’t stolen or anything. i don’t know the guy or anything, but high-ish profile people don’t just randomly get murdered all the time.