UCLA beats USC!

13-9!

yeah- I heard the yelling “holy shit” from the other room.

Wow, wow, wow…

Saw on the news yesterday that a furniture store in the LA area was running a promo that if you bought more than $2k in goods and UCLA won, you’d get a full refund…wonder how many took them up on that one?

So
National Championship: Ohio State vs. Florida
Rose Bowl USC vs Michigan.

I am a big ten fan and a Michigan fan, but I think this would make 2 exciting bowl games.

I know, crazy. Wolverine fans must be going crazy now! Florida still needs to take care of buisness as Arkansas is a very good football team. Unfortunately, the Gators undoubtedly know that USC has lost and should play hard in the 2nd half.

As a Buckeye Fan, I would MOST want to play Florida over MI (again) or USC.

What a great game! Very exciting!
My daughter is at the game and for $22 grand a year, it will be easier writing out the tuition payment, I am so jazzed I can hardly stand it. My long ride tomorrow will be painless!

I don’t get where Florida has any claim to be in the game. REmember the game against South Carolina was one they needed all kinds of miracles to win. Michigan may not have beaten Ball State impressively, but they were never in danger of losing that game.

At least with USC you had an argument about their tough schedule. The biggest reason anyone can come up with to say Florida AFAIC is they don’t want a rematch.

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Well, winning the SEC is pretty tough to do (although so is winning the Big10 this year, eh?) :slight_smile:

Anyway, the best 2 teams in the country are most definitely the Buckeyes and the Wolverines. Hell, I’m even rooting for Arkansas right now to help out my Big10 brethren “up North” :wink:

Man, what a weekend! Even though many said they don’t want a rematch (myself included) - I’m thinking the ratings for the Fiesta Bowl would be HUGE with all the BCS talk/hype leading up if it is an OSU-MI rematch.

edit: oops - yes, this should be in the Lavender room. Can this be moved? J&B. A lot tri people know very little to nothing (or care) about football :slight_smile:

Sorry I just think UofM had there chance and did not get it done. I think if there is a rematch Ohio State kills uhm. Would rather see 2 good football games then none.

Hmmm Now were in the classifieds.

Again, this goes back to what I said in another thread. Playing Ohio State was a game on the schedule. It was not the national championship. Beating Ohio State would have meant the Big Ten championship, and 12-0. It would not have given Michigan some kind of title that ohio State holds.

If you want to argue that only conference champions should play, fine. But the fact UM played OSU is not a derailer for the title game. If the point of the game is to have the two best teams face off(which is seems everyone says is the point until there’s a rematch involved), then Michigan has every right, and at this point appears the best case, to be in the game.

My only argument is (and I have not seen them play) but Florida might be a better team. They dont win fancy but they WIN. I still think OSU will Kill UofM lets say by 10, 14 or more. I would rather see UofM vs USC (good game not sure who would win) and OSU vs. Florida. I THINK OSU would win, but I really don’t know.

and how the hell do we get this out of the Classifieds.

Remember, this is the Bowl Championship Series, NOT a playoff system. Yes, Div 1-A needs a playoff JUST like the “lesser” divisions.

But, the BCS system is about standings, rankings, computers and most of all, money. #1 is supposed to play #2. That should be Ohio State (easily) and likely MI. Would likely have HUGE T.V. ratings and sell-outs for sure.

I would have liked to see an OSU-USC game as well, but … Personally, I think MI would/can beat FL and I’m pretty sure Ohio State can. I also believe that OSU would likely beat MI again (and by a lot more as well). So what to do?

It seems each year since 2000 we talk about a playoff system, but nothing happens. I was hoping that Arkansas would win to really mess things up and help spur along the play-off discussion. Makes things much more interesting, similar to 2002 when Ohio State won the national championship against a much better Miami team (just not that day).

But if there was a playoff, there would not be all this discussion and controversy. Which inevitably gets more people watching, creates lots of shows, lots of exposure.

Oh ya and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Which is ultimately what college football is all about.

It will be along time until a Div 1a playoff system.

Florida is ranked #1 in strength of schedule. That was BEFORE they beat #8 Arkansas.

Florida’s only loss was the result of a dropped snap by the punter, and Auburn recovered it for a TD. That swing did them in.

Florida played more games against top 15 teams than Michigan, Ohio State, and USC combined.

Same number of losses, toughest schedule. That’s why.

Florida has every right to claim they deserve to be in the NC game. Seriously.

Michigan was #3 in SOS, so they have a stake also. USC was #5 in SOS … so I am not understanding the “tough USC schedule”. They played one team in the top 15 (#6 ND), who already lost to Michigan when ND was #2. USC also played 3 consecutive games against unranked teams and won by 7 points or less. Great teams win, even win they struggle. Teams play “at their peak” maybe 3-4 times per year. In the SEC, that means you’re going to have tow in some ugly/lucky games … but wins are wins.

USC’s “tough” schedule was ranked behind Florida and Michigan … and the two latter teams didn’t lose to an unranked opponent.

Seems like many voters were voting for the game “they’d like to see play” rather than the game that matches the two best teams based on the facts of the 2006 season.

Well I always base strength of schedule in large part on the non conference schedule, for the simple fact that it is what a school can control. You play your conference opponents every year, and the conference schedules them. Whether they are weak or strong, you can’t control that. Non-conference however you have control over. Exactly why does Florida schedule a Western Carolina? I know everyone likes to go to the computer, and that’s fine. But scheduling a 1-AA opponent doesn’t look very good.

But if people are going ot talk about how turnovers, etc. by Florida are what caused the Auburn loss, then they also have to say how Florida crapped the bed and got a gift from South Carolina. You can’t have it both ways.

You selling a UCLA jersey or something?

Ha Ha! No, it’s much more mundane than that. This was posted on the main forum and when it was moved to the Lavender Room, it lost it’s way and ended up here.

Oh, darn… 'cause I’d buy one… I hate USC!

Exactly why does Florida schedule a Western Carolina? I know everyone likes to go to the computer, and that’s fine. But scheduling a 1-AA opponent doesn’t look very good.

Seriously?

They schedule lesser non-conference opponents because they play in the SEC and they KNOW going into the season that their REGULAR conference schedule is going to produce 3-6 games against top 25 teams. If Florida schedule games against 3 ranked non-conference opponents, they’d play a “suicide schedule” featuring a likely 6-9 games against top 25 teams. Heck, they went 9-1 against against the 10 bowl elgible teams on their schedule.

A team like USC knows they HAVE to schedule ranked non-conference opponents because their REGULAR PAC-10 schedule is only going to produce 2-3 games against top 25 opponents, and those opponents are likely to be on the bottom end of the top 25 (i.e., not in the top 10 or top 15). If USC didn’t schedule ranked out of conference oppponents, their SOS would likely be too low to get a top 3-5 ranking.

That’s why.

Again, you know going in that you’ll only play at your best for 3-4 games. You’re hoping those come against the best teams in your conference. Scheduling more tough out-of-conference games for SEC teams is just insane. You’re already going to have a murderous regular schedule.

Again, Florida played more top 15 teams than Ohio State, Michigan, USC COMBINED. They knew their schedule was going to be brutal going in (it is the SEC). You want them punished because they didn’t make it more brutal? More brutal than playing the #1 ranked schedule in the country?

I agree Florida can’t control their strength of in-conference schedule … but, like duh, (grin) it’s the SEC, it’s going to be full of ranked teams … it always is.

One could argue why Michigan didn’t schedule tougher out of conference teams … but that’s likely because Iowa was a top 5 pre-season team and Drew Tate was suppossed to be a Heisman candidate. That would mean that Michigan would play Ohio State, Iowa, Wisocnonsin, Penn State, and Notre Dame … all ranked teams. Throw in 1-3 non-conference games, and you’re setting yourself up for a good chance that even a great team stumbles (no one is at their peak all year) against a good opponent(s).

Remember the goal is to arrange the best combination of record and strength of schedule … not see who can play the most murderous schedule.

Florida had one-loss and played the toughest schedule in the nation.

Michigan had one loss and played the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation.

What MORE do you really expect these teams to do?