I did not say that Tupper Lake and Everest are the same. I am saying that the psychology is the same. If you don’t think you can help the person in need with what you have on you, you have too options…press on, or go get help. If the person is being attended to, then there is no point going off to get additional help.
You can say that at 29,000 ft, judgement is impaired, but 5 miles out of T2 with heartrate at 180 bpm, judgement is not exactly the same as when you are doing your Engineering Physics 4th year final exams Anyway, rather than second guessing the actions of others, its just great that she is OK. I have to agree with the others that after the first few have stopped to help, there is nothing really to do.
Last year training on the Queen K in Kona 5 days before the big event, a cyclist from Melbourne was taken down by a car that turned in front of him…knocked out all his front teeth and almost severed the guy’s kneecap. I was 2nd person on the scene and first with a cell phone, and called 911. As other’s stopped, we waved them by as adding a whole whack of traffic at the location was not helpful and frankly, it would have made the emergency response staff’s access to the spot more difficult…but if was 10th rider there and someone had called 911, I would push on with the training…I’m not a medic.
Rider/runner/adventure racer/rafter/climber/driver (insert participant/sport) gets hurt. Some stop to help, some keep going based on their assessment in a split second of the situation. There is no right or wrong…I’ve been there on all sides…the guy buckled over with blood pouring out, the guy helping the guy with blood pouring out and the guy moving on, having assessed the situation to be under the control of others. I really don’t think there is a perfect answer. My comment is that the pyschology of this situation is similar. Does this clarify things…or is every participant in the race supposed to stop?
I’ve come across a downed rider in a HIM, at that point there were 2-3 others with him waiting for the ambulance. I offered to stop and help, but they said that they were on it and the ambulance was on its way, so I continued on my way.
In bike racing, nobody stops for crashes, unless they also go down. Typically though there are race vehicles (commissaires or wheel vehicles) there to help. In my first crash in a race, i had a commissaire there to check on me, and to give me a push when I got back on my bike. My second was in a local crit, they sent someone down to see if I was OK, but the director checked with me when i walked my bike back to the start area (since my chain was lodged in between the casette and the spokes, both wheels were also out of true). I was just road rashed up nicely.
“Does this clarify things…or is every participant in the race supposed to stop?”
lets not be silly
no all can’t stop
but it ain’t Everest
My BOP finish is not as important as helping an injured biker.
If they were alone.
If I was first to see them.
Nevermind the coulda woulda shoulda highjack. Amazing what a simple update post starts.
I’m glad you’re doing fine. Hopefully you can get a bike ASAP and get back into the game. The Ottawa Half is right in your back yard and you don’t have to worry about vehicles.
Anyway, rather than second guessing the actions of others, its just great that she is OK. I have to agree with the others that after the first few have stopped to help, there is nothing really to do.