Anyone have them…recommneded or not? I’m thinking of getting them, they sound great. Comments appreciated. I currently use Continental Supersonics and I love them.
Thanks
Tires like this are meant for the track (Its essentially the same as the <125 tubular tire). You’ll end up disappointed if you try to use them on the road. Add 30-40 grams and get a tire that will make it the distance at your A race. Lightweight is great, but only if it still gets you from point A to Z.
no, this tire is for road racing/triathlon and is basically the same as the elite jet<160, the 160 TEW is a comparison weight with the normal clinchers with the tube included (the weight of the tire should be around 220g).
i ride the elite jet<160 and never had problems so if your race wheels are clincher this is a very good tire to race in.
Sergio is right…they are for TT’s triathlons etc etc as recommended to me by TUFO themselves. I think they will be great tyres for racing…anyone else know them???
Hmmm…I stand very much corrected. I guess I’ll stand by for reports of how they work out for you.
I ride Tufo tubies already and am really happy with them. If this model is, indeed, durable I have to admit that I’ll consider them for race tires on the odd occasion that I race my Hed Alps clincher wheels instead of my tubie H3s.
Those are the exact tires that I am racing on, they have been rock solid. I crank them up to 200 with nitrogen since I am on a Softride. My wife will be racing on the S 33 Specials because she is much lighter than I am and I want a tougher tire on her bike for races. The elite tires have been very durable for me, I do not see any reason they will not perform for you.
One thing I do not know is if there is a particular mounting direction that is best for handling. I am unable to find anything on their website. You will notice the tread goes in different directions, anyone out there know?
I have asked TUFO about the tread direction, as I have been speaking to them these days…I will post the answer as soon as possible!
I also noticed the interesting tread pattern for the C Elite Jet that is used as TT race tires (Spinergy Tilium/Renn Disc). Obvioulsy tires with no tread pattern lick Michellin or Hutchinsons, are not effected by how they are mounted but the Tufo’s have a directional tread pattern but no indication on the casing as to the direction of rotation. Traditionally, I had always been told that tires are were typically manufactured so that they would be mounted with the manufacturers logo appearing on the drive side of the bike (for tires with logos only on one side of the tire). Applying limited amounts of logic, I opted to mount my tires so that the directional tread points forward which means the Tufo log would be on the left or non-drive side as follows:
Direction of travel —>
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Timely and great question as I also saw those puppies and was wondering whether they’d be too light for my Hed3 wheels for the Duke Blue Devil. I’m 185 lbs., so I usually go with a little heavier tubular.
-Robert
You should have no problem with the wheel or weight, as I run the same wheel, and weigh about 5 lbs more.
For MS6073, I believe that is the same way I mount mine, but I am at work so I will check tonight.
I would be interested to know what the tufo answer is, hopefully there is one, not just we decided to put the lines in for no apparent reason.
Had my only DNF while riding on the EJ<160’s. It was at the Rocky Point Triathlon in Mexico this year, torrential rain and flooded streets. At some point while riding through the river err road I hit something that cut about a 1/4 inch gash through the tire. I had decided not to carry an additional tire and was SOL. I guess even with regular clinchers I still would have been SOL but I haven’t used them in a race again. However they do feel great on pavement a lot smoother that regular clinchers.
I have one of those (tubie) in front and a <215 in the back, have about 100-150 miles on it and no problems whatsoever (knock on wood)
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I don’t believe it matters, especially on a Jet where you’re riding mostly on the smooth center, so I put my TUFOs on with the label drive side.
Doh, (slaps forehead) thats what I get for trying to apply logic! You are absolutely right as my “ASCII art” is from the riders perspective (looking down at the top of the wheel) and so the tires footprint is actually the inverse of what I illustrated. That means that for an anal retentive like me, I mounted the tires incorrectly (:^>) and so mounting the tires such that the logo’s appear on the drive-side of the bike would actually be correct. So if we mounted the tires as I suggested, then this is what it would look like if we rolled a poorly inflated Tufo through puddle of water onto dry asphalt (grin):
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Not what I wanted to achieve! If we mount the tires with Tufo logos on the drive-side, the tread at the top of the wheel would then look like this (when viewed from above:
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…and after rolling the bike forward through a puddle with underinflated tires, the imprint the tire left on the ground would look then look like this (desired effect):
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I guess I am going to have to re-install the Tufo’s for my TT bikes race wheels tonight (:^>)!
Reply from Tufo themselves:
Dear Stephen,
many thanks for your loyalty in TUFO tires. Direction doesn’t have any influence on riding properties.
With best Regards
Milan Simek
Business Manager
TUFO
Hello,
Just curious, by nitrogen do you mean that you use a normal bike pump, or are you actually filling up with a nitrogen tank. If you are using pure nitrogen, why go to the trouble?
ShawnT
Yes, it is a nitrogen tank. In my situation I find it much easier for the following reasons:
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I can dial in the exact pressure I want from the dual stage regulator. 20-2000lbs
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The tank is portable, I bought it refill my shocks when I used to race a truck off-road.
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The nitrogen does not have near the issue of increased pressure from expansion due to heat.
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Well my pump does not go above 160lbs, and I want 200lbs, plus who wants to fight with a pump up to 200lbs.
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I have filled my tufo tires up to 200lbs a full week before the race and not lost any pressure according to my gauge.
All in all, I have that resource so I use it.
Yes, it is a nitrogen tank. In my situation I find it much easier for the following reasons:
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I can dial in the exact pressure I want from the dual stage regulator. 20-2000lbs
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The tank is portable, I bought it refill my shocks when I used to race a truck off-road.
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The nitrogen does not have near the issue of increased pressure from expansion due to heat.
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Well my pump does not go above 160lbs, and I want 200lbs, plus who wants to fight with a pump up to 200lbs.
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I have filled my tufo tires up to 200lbs a full week before the race and not lost any pressure according to my gauge.
All in all, I have that resource so I use it.
I was wondering if you were serious above. Thanks for the reply.
Please DON’T !
Man you all are relentless, that is a good thing.
Here is the deal, it is the easiest way to get 200psi here at my house, plain and simple.
Honestly most of the advantages mean nothing in our usage, but 98% nitrogen will difuse about 20-30% slower than air, nitrogen is inert, and oxygen is an oxidizer which will in time start to break down the rubber inside tires. Without 4 hours of calculations, the Ideal gas law includes factors such as temp, volume, pressure, a universal gas constant and the number of moles present. I realize that neither nitrogen or air are ideal gasses, but you can see that pressure will increase as temperature increases. Whatever, who cares, just watch those inflation pressures, I have experienced (not my bike) more than one tire explode in transition as the sun heated the tire.
If anyone felt like doing a bit of research on the subject, they would find there are other advantages to running nitrogen in their tires. If there were not clear advantages, you would not find nitrogen used in tires at NASCAR, Indy, Formula One, even OTR tires. I would be quite surprised to find out teams in the Tour were not using nitrogen. There are industrial nitrogen generators used in truck fleet service.
Do I believe it will provide a race advantage, NO. Once again though, all I wanted was a way to get my tires up to 200lbs.
You really need to review your basic chemistry if some of what you wrote is really what you believe.