I’ve read most of the postings RE tubies and gluing vs tape and despite the purported slight performance lose, I’m leaning towards tape. My question revolves around the spare. Assuming that I pre-glue a spare and that all the tape comes off the wheel when I remove the flat (clean rim) will one or two layers of pre-glue on my spare be enough to get me to T2? Or, should I just carry spare tape? I realize the non-logic of carrying a pre-glued spare for taped tires (why not just glue to begin with right?). But, in my limited experience, removing a taped tire is much easier (faster) than removing a fully glued tire, with less chance of damaging a carbon wheel. And, since I’m racing mostly flat/straight courses, I’m not too worried about rolling a tire that’s been taped. Thanks for your input.
Just use glue
No the tire will not stick if the rim has no glue
I see no reason ever to use tape
It is so easy to use glue and cheeper
It is so easy
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with the name Punisher you are going to use tape!
What is up with that
I used tape last year - and I would recommend it if you’re looking for simplicity. I pre-glued my spare but never flatted so can’t tell you how things panned out. My guess is that if you pull the tire off the tape will stay on the rim - or at least a large portion of it - giving your spare enough stuff for the glue to stick to.
Tubular tape is essentially just glue formed into a tape shape so in a flatting situation it won’t be much different that if you glued your tire on.
I know there are a lot of tape-haters here but some of us just don’t have the time of desire to dedicate a whole week to gluing our tires. You’ll be fine with tape. I recommend Tufo Extreme.
After 4 years on tubies I’ve chucked the whole thing and will be racing on clinchers this year. Man, am I happy about that! I don’t plan to ever go back to tubies.
Have fun!
Dan
A week to glue a tire ?
That is bs
Glue rim 2x glue tire 2x let dry mount tire
i used tape one time…when i decided to change the tire before a big race it was attached to the rim so well that it took me about 45min to an hour to get it off, using tire irons and other tools. if i had been in a race situation at the time i probably would have done a ‘normann’ and thrown my bike as far as i could. stay with glue on the rim and a preglued spare and save yourself needless grief.
Good point. So, use glue then? Just kidding. That’s what I’m looking for… a little conviction. And yes, I am the Punisher. I’m also on the larger end of the triathlete weight spectrum at 225 and as such rolling tires is a concern but, its not like I’m racing crits. However, my number one concern is speed- both on the course and if, god forbid I have to change a flat. Are you saying that you can change a glued tubie as fast or faster than a taped tubie? I haven’t used glued tires, only taped in the past and about 50% of the time the tape stays on the rim and the other 50% it stays on tire so that’s why I’m asking about the pre-glued spare. Luckily, I haven’t flatted in a race, only changed taped tubies at home. Furthermore, I don’t care if it takes me a month to glue on a tire IF I can get it off (fast) during a race and it won’t damage my wheel. Seems to be consensus that glue is faster than tape- I think I read 2-3 watts difference- any truth to that? obviously that’s completely subjective right? Who has measured this? Zipp may have I suppose. What about leaving a gap in the glue opposite the valve? is that worthwhile (from a speed of removal perspective) or complete BS?
yes their is a learning curve with tire mounting
But it is very easy to become good at it
Cheep good tires are easy to find and with lots moving to clinchers it is easy to find nice wheels cheep. An IM cost a lot of money . The last thing I would do is use a type of wheel I have never changed a flat on.I have tubbie training wheels when I flat I get a chance to change tires under no race pressure. I have changed lots of tubbies on the road . Bought my first tubular wheels in 1970. no need for the tape.
You need to have a decent glue job, but even with a well glued tire you can get it off and changed faster than a clincher. Once you are riding on a spare, you just have to take the corners slow. Most people use old tires as spares that have some glue on them so they will stick OK.
Tape isn’t any great shakes, but you can use it if you like.
Sort of OT, I’ve been very happy running stans in my tubies.
Thanks. Is Stans similar or the same to the Tufu sealant? Any difference between the two? That was my plan- to use the Tufu (as I already bought some) and now I’m leaning towards glue rather than tape. Any experience with leaving the blank spot (no glue) opposite the valve stem? I read one guy’s comments who said he rolled the tire there (on the blank spot) but I have a hard time believing that especially if running at 120+ psi and the blank spot is only 3 inches…
Carry a razor blade. You can buy single sided ones for box cutter toos in the hardware store that are easy to use without slicing yourself.
Once you slice the old tire, you can get a good handle on it and yard it off the rim PDQ. Takes a few seconds.
Carry a razor blade. You can buy single sided ones for box cutter toos in the hardware store that are easy to use without slicing yourself.
Once you slice the old tire, you can get a good handle on it and yard it off the rim PDQ. Takes a few seconds.
Ick, those $75 tires can usually be repaired…
Generally, I agree with the sentiment. I ride clinchers for training and I always bring punctured tubes home and patch them.
In a race, though, there is no way I’m carrying the thing stuffed down the front of my swimsuit for the rest of the bike ride … it is getting ditched at the next aid station.
I’m with you on the cut the tire
Knife man not a blade (-;
My tires are very hard to get off fast
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I’m with you on the cut the tire
Knife man not a blade (-;
My tires are very hard to get off fast
You’d better be careful prancing around with a razor blade in those little speedo pants you guys like to wear.
No Speedo for me (-:
I like a little more in clothing.